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- Some poskim consider pressing raw material into a sheet of cloth in which there are no threads to be a Toldah of Toveh.  Others disagree.
- Rambam Shabbos 9:15, Rabbi Ribiat (v.3, p. 759), Mishnah Brurahh 302:57
- Chaye Adam (Shabbos 25:1)
- Rambam Shabbos 9:15
- The Raavad Shabbos 9:15, argues that pressing raw materials into a cloth is irrelevant to Toveh and cannot be considered a Toldah. He suggests that it could constitute a Toldah of Boneh though, since one is creating a new entity out of the fibers. The Minchat Chinuch 32:16 notes that even though the Rambam holds that pressing fibers into cloth is a Toldah of spinning, it wouldn’t necessarily be considered spinning for other areas of halacha, such as shatnez.