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===Unsure if Six Hours Passed=== | ===Unsure if Six Hours Passed=== | ||
# If one is unsure whether 6 hours passed, some say that one should wait until 6 hours surely passed and some say that one may be lenient and certainly in a case where one only ate chicken and not meat. <Ref>Hilchot Baser BeChalav 1:20. Badei Hashulchan 89:9 writes that someone who is lenient doesn't lose anything. Mishneh Halachot 5:97:3 writes that initially one should be strict to wait a complete 6 hours.</ref> Sephardim are lenient.<ref> | # If one is unsure whether 6 hours passed, some say that one should wait until 6 hours surely passed and some say that one may be lenient and certainly in a case where one only ate chicken and not meat. <Ref>Hilchot Baser BeChalav 1:20. Badei Hashulchan 89:9 writes that someone who is lenient doesn't lose anything. Mishneh Halachot 5:97:3 writes that initially one should be strict to wait a complete 6 hours.</ref> Sephardim are lenient.<ref> Yad Yehuda 89:1 is strict because of dvar shyesh lo matirin but Darkei Teshuva 89:5 argues based on the Tzlach Pesachim 9b that anything that you can do multiple times isn't dvar sheyesh lo matirin. Similarly, eating dairy isn't considered a dvar sheyesh lo matirin since it is possible to have dairy now and later. Badei Hashulchan 89:1 s.v. shesh disagrees with the Darkei Teshuva. Yalkut Yosef Isur Vheter v. 3 p. 386 accepts the Darkei Teshuva. He cites the Zer Hashulchan 89:29 who is strict and says that it isn't comparable to the Tzlach since one isn't going to eat that piece of cheese twice. He also points out that Rabbi Akiva Eiger Megillah 5b seems to disagree with the Tzlach. | ||
* Regarding the application of the Tzlach see Taharat Habayit v. 3 p. 268 who quotes the Pri Hasadeh 2:38 and Maharam (Daat Torah YD 199) who limit the Nodeh Beyehuda YD 53 to say that it would not be considered a dvar sheyesh lo matirin for a woman to go back to mikveh if she had to wait an entire night. Similarly, Nodeh Beyehuda EH 2:38 applies his own concept to a woman be able to get married within 24 months if there's a doubt if she was pregnant from a Jew or non-Jew since she could be married now and later and it isn't considered a dvar sheyesh lo matirin to wait.</ref> | * Regarding the application of the Tzlach, see Taharat Habayit v. 3 p. 268 who quotes the Pri Hasadeh 2:38 and Maharam (Daat Torah YD 199) who limit the Nodeh Beyehuda YD 53 to say that it would not be considered a dvar sheyesh lo matirin for a woman to go back to mikveh if she had to wait an entire night. Similarly, Nodeh Beyehuda EH 2:38 applies his own concept to a woman be able to get married within 24 months if there's a doubt if she was pregnant from a Jew or non-Jew since she could be married now and later and it isn't considered a dvar sheyesh lo matirin to wait.</ref> | ||
===Sick=== | ===Sick=== | ||
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===If One Already Made a Bracha=== | ===If One Already Made a Bracha=== | ||
# If one forgot that one recently ate meat and now made a bracha on the dairy he should take a bite of the food so that it isn't a bracha livatala as long as one hour passed since one ate the meat.<ref>Yachava Daat 4:41 </ref> | # If one forgot that one recently ate meat and now made a bracha on the dairy he should take a bite of the food so that it isn't a bracha livatala as long as one hour passed since one ate the meat.<ref>Yachava Daat 4:41 </ref> | ||
===Dirty Pot=== | |||
# If one cooked parve in a dirty meat pot whether one needs to wait 6 hours after eating that food is a dispute.<ref>Shach 89:19 is lenient. Yad Yehuda 89:5 explains that he is lenient even if the pot was dirty and not nullified in 60.</ref> Others are strict.<ref>Eliya Rabba 173:4 argues on the Shach completely. Badei Hashulchan 89:89 seems to be strict as he quotes Eliya Rabba at the end.</ref> | |||
==Meat Stuck in Your Teeth== | ==Meat Stuck in Your Teeth== | ||
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==Waiting Between Milk and Meat== | ==Waiting Between Milk and Meat== | ||
# After one eats or drinks dairy one doesn't have to wait before eating meat. It is permitted to eat meat as long as one has washed one's hands, ate something that cleans one's teeth such as bread or fruit, and drank some liquid.<ref>Shulchan Aruch YD 89:2</ref> | # After one eats or drinks dairy one doesn't have to wait before eating meat. It is permitted to eat meat as long as one has washed one's hands, ate something that cleans one's teeth such as bread or fruit, and drank some liquid.<ref>Shulchan Aruch YD 89:2</ref> | ||
# If used silverware | # If one used silverware, he doesn't have to wash one's hands but it is proper to do so since it is easy.<Ref>The Pri Chadash 89:6 (cited by Bear Heitiv 89:5) holds that one doesn't have to wash one's hands if one ate with a fork. Pri Megadim Siftei Daat 89:20 adds that it is proper to be strict since it is easy to do so.</ref> | ||
# The halacha is that one doesn't need to separate between a meal of dairy and meat with a bracha achrona.<ref>Even though the Shlah and Zohar are strict, the Rama OC 494:3 and Mishna Brurah 494:16 don't require a bracha achrona after dairy before eating meat. Pri Megadim M"Z 89:3 writes that it is a chumra and even if one is strict it is sufficient to make a bracha achrona even if one's intention is to eat meat afterwards.</ref> | # The halacha is that one doesn't need to separate between a meal of dairy and meat with a bracha achrona.<ref>Even though the Shlah and Zohar are strict, the Rama OC 494:3 and Mishna Brurah 494:16 don't require a bracha achrona after dairy before eating meat. Pri Megadim M"Z 89:3 writes that it is a chumra and even if one is strict it is sufficient to make a bracha achrona even if one's intention is to eat meat afterwards.</ref> | ||
===Dairy Dish=== | ===Dairy Dish=== | ||
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## American cheese is not included in this custom. <ref>[http://www.yutorah.org/lectures/lecture.cfm/776128/Rabbi_Hershel_Schachter/Reishit_Bikkurim:_A_Guide_to_Shavuot_Observance Rav Hershel Schachter in a published pamphlet about Hilchot Shavuot] (p. 5) quoting Rav Soloveitchik</ref> | ## American cheese is not included in this custom. <ref>[http://www.yutorah.org/lectures/lecture.cfm/776128/Rabbi_Hershel_Schachter/Reishit_Bikkurim:_A_Guide_to_Shavuot_Observance Rav Hershel Schachter in a published pamphlet about Hilchot Shavuot] (p. 5) quoting Rav Soloveitchik</ref> | ||
# Many poskim define hard cheese as anything that was hardened for six months.<ref>Isur Veheter 40:10, Shach 89:15, Taz 89:4, Pri Chadash 89:16, Aruch Hashulchan 89:11, and Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 46:11 write that hard cheese is cheese that was aged for 6 months.</ref> | # Many poskim define hard cheese as anything that was hardened for six months.<ref>Isur Veheter 40:10, Shach 89:15, Taz 89:4, Pri Chadash 89:16, Aruch Hashulchan 89:11, and Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 46:11 write that hard cheese is cheese that was aged for 6 months.</ref> | ||
# Accordingly, many poskim hold that mild cheddar, feta, mozzarella, and muenster cheeses are considered soft cheeses, however, medium, sharp and aged cheddar, and Parmesan cheeses are considered hard cheeses. <ref>[http://www.oukosher.org/pdf/daf19-9c.pdf Rabbi Avrohom Gordimer in OU's Daf HaKashrus] Tamuz 5771 p. 55. </ref> However, some hold that any cheese that appears hard requires waiting six hours.<ref>Shevet Halevi 2:35 writes that one should be strict about any hard cheese even if it is aged for less than 6 months. Rav Elyashiv in Kovetz Teshuvot 1:58:2 writes that one should wait six hours after eating melted yellow cheese on pizza since the reason to wait for cheese is the sharp taste and that's true even if it melted.</ref> | # Accordingly, many poskim hold that mild cheddar, feta, mozzarella, and muenster cheeses are considered soft cheeses, however, medium, sharp and aged cheddar, and Parmesan cheeses are considered hard cheeses. <ref>[http://www.oukosher.org/pdf/daf19-9c.pdf Rabbi Avrohom Gordimer in OU's Daf HaKashrus] Tamuz 5771 p. 55. </ref> However, some hold that any cheese that appears hard requires waiting six hours.<ref>Shevet Halevi 2:35 writes that one should be strict about any hard cheese even if it is aged for less than 6 months. Rav Elyashiv in Kovetz Teshuvot 1:58:2 writes that one should wait six hours after eating melted yellow cheese on pizza since the reason to wait for cheese is the sharp taste and that's true even if it melted.</ref> See the [https://oukosher.org/blog/consumer-kosher/aged-cheese-list/ OU list of hard cheeses]. | ||
# Some poskim are lenient that one doesn't need to wait after eating hard cheese which was melted.<ref>Yad Yehuda Pirush Hakatzar 89:30 writes that if the cheese was softened by being melted one doesn't have to be strict to consider the food a tavshil of cheese. See [https://oukosher.org/blog/consumer-kosher/aged-cheese-list/ OU Article fnt. 6] which says that the OU holds that the Yad Yehuda can only be applied to a case of a tavshil of cheese in that the cheese isn't noticeable. However, some apply the Yad Yehuda to any melted cheese. Badei Hashulchan 89:2 s.v. vechen seems to apply the Yad Yehuda to all cases but questions it since the softening only helps that it doesn't get stuck in one's teeth but not for the sharp taste.</ref> | # Some poskim are lenient that one doesn't need to wait after eating hard cheese which was melted.<ref>Yad Yehuda Pirush Hakatzar 89:30 writes that if the cheese was softened by being melted one doesn't have to be strict to consider the food a tavshil of cheese. See [https://oukosher.org/blog/consumer-kosher/aged-cheese-list/ OU Article fnt. 6] which says that the OU holds that the Yad Yehuda can only be applied to a case of a tavshil of cheese in that the cheese isn't noticeable. However, some apply the Yad Yehuda to any melted cheese. Badei Hashulchan 89:2 s.v. vechen seems to apply the Yad Yehuda to all cases but questions it since the softening only helps that it doesn't get stuck in one's teeth but not for the sharp taste.</ref> | ||
# Crackers or popcorn made with hard cheeses such as Parmesan or hard Cheddar cheeses (e.g. Cheez It Duoz) don't require waiting 6 hours afterwards since they are cooked.<ref>[https://oukosher.org/halacha-yomis/the-ou-certifies-crackers-and-popcorn-with-parmesan-seasoning-since-parmesan-is-a-hard-cheese-that-requires-one-who-ate-it-to-wait-six-hours-before-eating-meat-do-i-similarly-need-to-wait-six-hours/?category OU Halacha Yomi]</ref> | |||
==Clearing off the Table== | ==Clearing off the Table== | ||
