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After the woman went to the mikveh and has not yet seen any blood there is time when she is expecting her next period during which she is forbidden to her husband. | After the woman went to the mikveh and has not yet seen any blood there is time when she is expecting her next period during which she is forbidden to her husband. That day when she is considered to be expecting her period is called a veset. If it is established as a pattern (veset kavuah) it is treated more seriously, while if that day isn't established in some pattern there are a few days on which she is considered to be anticipating her period (veset sheino kavuah). Today most women's period do not fall into any pattern. | ||
==A Woman without an Established Veset Pattern== | |||
# Most woman today don't see their period in a regular pattern. If that is the case, there are 3 concerns of veset that apply to such a woman: Onah Beynonit (regular period), Chodesh (monthly pattern), and Haflagah (interval pattern). Each of these apply from the last time she saw her period. | |||
# | ===Onah Beynonit=== | ||
# A woman who doesn't have a fixed veset (established with 3 times), which is very common, has to observe a veset on the 30th day from her last period and that is called an Onah Beynonit.<ref> | # A woman who doesn't have a fixed veset (established with 3 times), which is very common, has to observe a veset on the 30th day from her last period and that is called an Onah Beynonit.<ref> | ||
* Rashi Niddah 15a s.v. Bitoch explains that a woman is concerned about a 30 day veset since by default that's when a woman sees her period. The Ramban (Chiddushim 15a s.v. vehu) supports this opinion from the Yerushalmi Niddah 2:4. The Rashba ([http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=8922&st=&pgnum=367 Torat Habayit 15a]) based on Rashi writes that any woman who doesn't have a fixed veset needs to be concerned about the Onah Beynonit. The Ran Shevuot 4b-5a s.v. garsinan understood Rashi that there's an Onah Beynonit even if a woman has a fixed veset but argues that the concern of Onah Beynonit should only exist if she doesn't have a fixed veset. The idea of an Onah Beynonit is codified by the Tur and Shulchan Aruch 189:1. | * Rashi Niddah 15a s.v. Bitoch explains that a woman is concerned about a 30 day veset since by default that's when a woman sees her period. The Ramban (Chiddushim 15a s.v. vehu) supports this opinion from the Yerushalmi Niddah 2:4. The Rashba ([http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=8922&st=&pgnum=367 Torat Habayit 15a]) based on Rashi writes that any woman who doesn't have a fixed veset needs to be concerned about the Onah Beynonit. The Ran Shevuot 4b-5a s.v. garsinan understood Rashi that there's an Onah Beynonit even if a woman has a fixed veset but argues that the concern of Onah Beynonit should only exist if she doesn't have a fixed veset. The idea of an Onah Beynonit is codified by the Tur and Shulchan Aruch 189:1. | ||
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## Some poskim also count the 31st day as the Onah Beynonit, Sephardim aren't concerned for this opinion.<Ref>The Chavot Daat 189:12 doesn't accept the Shach's major premise but accepts another aspect of his approach which is that the Oneh Beynonit isn't on the 30th day as is the opinion of Shulchan Aruch but that it is the 31st day. Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 155:3 adopts the opinion of the Chavot Daat to calculate the Onah Beynonit as the 31st day. Badei Hashulchan 189:8 writes that one should be strict for the Chavot Daat except in an extenuating circumstance. Rav Ovadia Yosef in Taharat Habayit v. 1 p. 77 accepts Shulchan Aruch that the Onah Beynonit is the 30th day.</ref> | ## Some poskim also count the 31st day as the Onah Beynonit, Sephardim aren't concerned for this opinion.<Ref>The Chavot Daat 189:12 doesn't accept the Shach's major premise but accepts another aspect of his approach which is that the Oneh Beynonit isn't on the 30th day as is the opinion of Shulchan Aruch but that it is the 31st day. Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 155:3 adopts the opinion of the Chavot Daat to calculate the Onah Beynonit as the 31st day. Badei Hashulchan 189:8 writes that one should be strict for the Chavot Daat except in an extenuating circumstance. Rav Ovadia Yosef in Taharat Habayit v. 1 p. 77 accepts Shulchan Aruch that the Onah Beynonit is the 30th day.</ref> | ||
## If a woman always sees past the 30th day some poskim believe that she doesn't need to worry about the Onah Beynonit, however, many poskim hold that she still needs to worry about her Onah Beynonit.<ref>The Taharat Yisrael 186:13 writes that once a woman always sees past the 30th day we can establish her as having a pattern of not seeing before then. If so, she doesn't need to be concerned about the Onah Beynonit on the 30th day. This idea is also found in the Trumat Hadeshen 247 and Shulchan Aruch YD 186:3. See also Ritva Niddah 15a s.v. amar rabbi shimon. Rav Moshe Feinstein (Igrot Moshe YD 2:72), Rav Ovadia Yosef (Taharat Habayit v. 1 p. 150), and [http://www.yutorah.org/sidebar/lecture.cfm/868501/rabbi-mordechai-i-willig/niddah-shiur-51-negative-veset-onah-beynonit/ Rabbi Mordechai Willig (Niddah Shiur 51)] accept this leniency. However, many achronim disagree and write that this idea of the Trumat Hadeshen only applies to not having to do a bedika before tashmish but not for the topic of veset. This is the opinion of the Chelkat Yakov 2:74, Minchat Yitzchak 6:82, and Badei Hashulchan 186:25 and 189:4. </ref> | ## If a woman always sees past the 30th day some poskim believe that she doesn't need to worry about the Onah Beynonit, however, many poskim hold that she still needs to worry about her Onah Beynonit.<ref>The Taharat Yisrael 186:13 writes that once a woman always sees past the 30th day we can establish her as having a pattern of not seeing before then. If so, she doesn't need to be concerned about the Onah Beynonit on the 30th day. This idea is also found in the Trumat Hadeshen 247 and Shulchan Aruch YD 186:3. See also Ritva Niddah 15a s.v. amar rabbi shimon. Rav Moshe Feinstein (Igrot Moshe YD 2:72), Rav Ovadia Yosef (Taharat Habayit v. 1 p. 150), and [http://www.yutorah.org/sidebar/lecture.cfm/868501/rabbi-mordechai-i-willig/niddah-shiur-51-negative-veset-onah-beynonit/ Rabbi Mordechai Willig (Niddah Shiur 51)] accept this leniency. However, many achronim disagree and write that this idea of the Trumat Hadeshen only applies to not having to do a bedika before tashmish but not for the topic of veset. This is the opinion of the Chelkat Yakov 2:74, Minchat Yitzchak 6:82, and Badei Hashulchan 186:25 and 189:4. </ref> | ||
===Veset Hachodesh (monthly pattern)=== | |||
# If a woman doesn't have an established veset, she should mark the day of the month on the Hebrew calendar when she last saw and her veset will be on the same day of the month the next month.<Ref>Shulchan Aruch 189:6</ref> Whether the veset falls out by night or by the day depends on the last time she saw. If it was by day the veset is by day and if it was by night then the veset is by night.<Ref>Shulchan Aruch 189:13</ref> | |||
# The veset hachodesh is established from month to month irrelevant of whether the month is 29 or 30 days.<ref>Tosfot Niddah 64a s.v. itmar, Raavad p. 48, Rashba (Torat Habayit 9a), Tur and Shulchan Aruch 189:6</ref> | |||
===Veset Haflagah (interval pattern)=== | |||
# If a woman doesn't have an established veset, she should calculate the interval between the last time she saw her period and two times ago.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 189:2</ref> Counting the same number of days from the last period establishes the day of the veset. Whether the veset falls out by night or by the day depends on the last time she saw. If it was by day the veset is by day and if it was by night then the veset is by night.<Ref>Pitchei Teshuva 189:9 citing the Nodeh Beyehuda YD 2:83</ref> | |||
===Uncommon Vestot=== | |||
# The woman who sees in increasing intervals or on consecutive days of the month (see below for explanation of these patterns) is only concerned if she saw that 3 times. However, until it is established as a veset a woman who doesn't have a veset doesn't need to be concerned about them.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 189:11</ref> | |||
==A Woman with an Established Veset Pattern== | |||
===Veset Hachodesh (monthly pattern)== | |||
# If a woman sees her period on a certain day on the Hebrew calendar that is called a veset hachodesh.<ref>The Gemara Niddah 39b and 64a both use cases of veset that are tied to the monthly calendar. Tosfot 64a s.v. itmar explains that a veset is established by the Jewish calendar even if some months are 29 days and others are 30. This is also the opinion of the Raavad ([http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=8785&st=&pgnum=46 Baalei Hanefesh p. 48] cited by Rashba), Rashba (Taharat Habayit 9a and Mishmeret Habayit 9a), Rambam (Isurei Biyah 8:6), Maggid Mishna (Isurei Biyah 8:6), Tur and Shulchan Aruch 189:6. Even though the Ramban (Chiddushim 64a) questions this approach in his Hilchot Niddah 5:12 he accepted it.</ref> | |||
# A corollary of the veset of the month is the veset of the day of the week. A woman who usually sees on a day of the week every certain number of works that creates a veset. For example, if she saw on Sunday and then 29 days later on a Sunday she needs to be concerned about the Sunday after four weeks later. That weeks a veset with three times and is a veset sheino kavuah with one time. <ref>Niddah 11a, Rashba ([http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=8922&st=&pgnum=355 Torat Habayit 9a]), Shulchan Aruch YD 189:6</ref> If a veset of the day of the week can be viewed as a veset of haflagah we look at it as a veset of haflagah.<Ref>Chavot Daat 189:4 writes that if the veset of the day of the week is established as a haflagah of the same day of the week then it is a veset of haflagah. For example, if a woman saw on 4 Sundays 3 weeks apart then she has a veset of haflagah of 22 days. However, if she only saw 3 times like that then she only has a veset for every third Sunday. Igrot Moshe YD 1:122 isn't certain that we follow the Chavot Daat where the veset of the day of the week is consistent but is sure that we follow a haflagah if the day of the week is increasing.</ref> | |||
===Veset Haflagah (interval pattern)=== | |||
# If a woman sees her period after an interval of a certain number of days that is called a veset haflagah. For example, if she sees every 28 days that is a veset.<ref>Gemara Niddah 63b, Tur and Shulchan YD 184:1</ref> | |||
# The veset is established by seeing 4 periods in between which there are 3 intervals.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 189:2</ref> | |||
# A haflagah veset is only established if all 4 periods were at night or all were during the day.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 189:13</ref> | |||
===Uncommon Vestot=== | ===Uncommon Vestot=== | ||
====Increasing Days of the Month==== | ====Increasing Days of the Month==== | ||
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# Consistently seeing on an earlier day of the month establishes a veset just like seeing consecutively later days.<Ref>Badei Hashulchan 189:58</ref> | # Consistently seeing on an earlier day of the month establishes a veset just like seeing consecutively later days.<Ref>Badei Hashulchan 189:58</ref> | ||
# Consistently seeing on days of the month 2 days beyond the last month also establishes a veset. <Ref>Badei Hashulchan 189:58</ref> | # Consistently seeing on days of the month 2 days beyond the last month also establishes a veset. <Ref>Badei Hashulchan 189:58</ref> | ||
# If a woman has a cyclical pattern of seeing on the 15th of the month, next month on the 16th, next on the 17th, then the next month jumps back to the 15th, 16th, 17th, and again 15th, 16th, and 17th, she has established a veset for that pattern.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 189:8. Shach 189:20 holds that this pattern is established even according to Shmuel without seeing on the 18th for each series to create this pattern.</ref> | # If a woman has a cyclical pattern of seeing on the 15th of the month, next month on the 16th, next on the 17th, then the next month jumps back to the 15th, 16th, 17th, and again 15th, 16th, and 17th, she has established a veset for that pattern.<ref>Rabbenu Chananel understood the gemara Niddah 64a that you need to see 9 times in a pattern to establish a changing veset such as the 15th of one month, then the 16th of the next month, and then the 17th of the third month, the cycle continues for another 6 months starting the fourth and seventh time again on the 15th. Tosfot disagrees with Rabbenu Chananel in the gemara. Rashba (Torat Habyait 14b) writes that even though we disagree with the Rabbenu Chananel’s understanding we still hold that his case is considered a veset. Tur and Shulchan Aruch YD 189:8 agree. Shach 189:20 holds that this pattern is established even according to Shmuel without seeing on the 18th for each series to create this pattern.</ref> | ||
# In fact, if a woman has a alternating pattern switching between the 15th of the month and the 16th, by seeing this switch 3 times, which is altogether 6 periods, she establishes a veset.<ref>Raavad ([http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=8785&st=&pgnum=51 Baalei Hanefesh p. 53]), Taz 189:10, Shach 189:21. See there in Raavad who treats this as two separate vestot, while the Shach treats it as single cyclical pattern.</ref> | # In fact, if a woman has a alternating pattern switching between the 15th of the month and the 16th, by seeing this switch 3 times, which is altogether 6 periods, she establishes a veset.<ref>Raavad ([http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=8785&st=&pgnum=51 Baalei Hanefesh p. 53]), Taz 189:10, Shach 189:21. See there in Raavad who treats this as two separate vestot, while the Shach treats it as single cyclical pattern.</ref> | ||
====Increasing or decreasing intervals==== | ====Increasing or decreasing intervals==== | ||
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# If a woman has a veset for starting to see during a certain hour of the day then she is concerned about her regular non-kavuah vestot only for that hour.<ref>The Raavad ([http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=8785&st=&pgnum=30 Baalei Hanefesh p. 32]) writes that if a woman has a veset only for a specific hour during the day and not for days that can establish a veset for that hour. Shulchan Aruch 189:3 codifies the opinion of the Raavad. Chavot Daat 189:4 explains that if she doesn’t have a veset for days and does have an established hour, she only needs to keep her non-kavuah vestot during that hour that she has a veset for.</ref> | # If a woman has a veset for starting to see during a certain hour of the day then she is concerned about her regular non-kavuah vestot only for that hour.<ref>The Raavad ([http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=8785&st=&pgnum=30 Baalei Hanefesh p. 32]) writes that if a woman has a veset only for a specific hour during the day and not for days that can establish a veset for that hour. Shulchan Aruch 189:3 codifies the opinion of the Raavad. Chavot Daat 189:4 explains that if she doesn’t have a veset for days and does have an established hour, she only needs to keep her non-kavuah vestot during that hour that she has a veset for.</ref> | ||
== | ==Bedika during Veset== | ||
# A kavuah veset requires a bedika during the veset and if she didn’t do one then she is forbidden to her husband until she does a bedika. However, a veset that’s not established after the day passes doesn’t require a bedika.<ref>Rashba (Torat Habayit 15b), Shulchan Aruch 189:4. Even though Shulchan Aruch 184:9 rules like the Rambam, the Shulchan Aruch retracted and held like the Rashba in 189:4.</ref> | |||
==How to Uproot a Veset== | |||
# A veset kavuah is uprooted only after missing it three times, while a non-kavuah veset is uprooted with one time.<Ref>Rav Papa in Niddah 64a says that a non-kavuah veset is established and removed with one time. However, a kavuah veset the Mishna 63b says takes 3 times to establish and remove. Tur and Shulchan Aruch 189:2 codify this.</ref> | # A veset kavuah is uprooted only after missing it three times, while a non-kavuah veset is uprooted with one time.<Ref>Rav Papa in Niddah 64a says that a non-kavuah veset is established and removed with one time. However, a kavuah veset the Mishna 63b says takes 3 times to establish and remove. Tur and Shulchan Aruch 189:2 codify this.</ref> | ||
# A | ===A Non-established Veset=== | ||
# A non-established veset (veset sheino kavuah) is uprooted if she missed seeing blood once<ref>Gemara Niddah 64a establishes that she only needs to uproot it once. Shulchan Aruch 189:2 codifies this.</ref> and even if she forgot and didn't do a bedika.<ref>[http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=40885&st=&pgnum=435 Ramban (Hilchot Niddah 5:19)], The Laws of Niddah v. 1 p. 325</ref> | |||
===An Established Veset=== | |||
== | |||
# To uproot a veset kavuah the following conditions need to be met: | # To uproot a veset kavuah the following conditions need to be met: | ||
## The day of the veset needs to pass three times without seeing blood and she needs to do a bedika during the veset. <ref>Raavad ([http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=8785&st=&pgnum=45 Shaar Tikkun Havestot 2 p. 47]), [http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=40885&st=&pgnum=435 Ramban (Hilchot Niddah 5:19)], Chavot Daat 189:10, The Laws of Niddah v. 1 p. 325</ref> | ## The day of the veset needs to pass three times without seeing blood and she needs to do a bedika during the veset. <ref>Raavad ([http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=8785&st=&pgnum=45 Shaar Tikkun Havestot 2 p. 47]), [http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=40885&st=&pgnum=435 Ramban (Hilchot Niddah 5:19)], Chavot Daat 189:10, The Laws of Niddah v. 1 p. 325</ref> | ||
## A veset kavuah is only uprooted if it is replaced with another veset. If she missed 3 times on different days and doesn't establish a veset, she doesn't need to be concerned about veset but if she sees on it once it returns.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 189:15. The [http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=8785&st=&pgnum=32 Raavad (Shaar Tikkun Vestot p. 34)] writes that a veset is only completely uprooted if it is replaced by another veset. If she missed 3 times practically she isn't concerned for the veset but unless she establishes a new veset if she sees on the old veset once, that veset returns. This is view of the Tur and Bet Yosef 189:15 and The Laws of Niddah v. 1 p. 324. The Sidrei Tahara 189:19 explains that the [http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=40885&st=&pgnum=435 Ramban (Hilchot Niddah 6:5)] holds that if she saw on 3 different days then the veset is uprooted completely but nonetheless accepts the ruling of Shulchan Aruch. Simla 189:33 disagrees with Shulchan Aruch based on the Ramban and Rashi. Rav Mordechai Willig (Am Mordechai on Shulchan Aruch p. 127) agrees and suggests that even the Raavad doesn't hold like the Tur and Shulchan Aruch understood him. See there. </ref> | ## A veset kavuah is only uprooted if it is replaced with another veset. If she missed 3 times on different days and doesn't establish a veset, she doesn't need to be concerned about veset but if she sees on it once it returns.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 189:15. The [http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=8785&st=&pgnum=32 Raavad (Shaar Tikkun Vestot p. 34)] writes that a veset is only completely uprooted if it is replaced by another veset. If she missed 3 times practically she isn't concerned for the veset but unless she establishes a new veset if she sees on the old veset once, that veset returns. This is view of the Tur and Bet Yosef 189:15 and The Laws of Niddah v. 1 p. 324. The Sidrei Tahara 189:19 explains that the [http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=40885&st=&pgnum=435 Ramban (Hilchot Niddah 6:5)] holds that if she saw on 3 different days then the veset is uprooted completely but nonetheless accepts the ruling of Shulchan Aruch. Simla 189:33 disagrees with Shulchan Aruch based on the Ramban and Rashi. Rav Mordechai Willig (Am Mordechai on Shulchan Aruch p. 127) agrees and suggests that even the Raavad doesn't hold like the Tur and Shulchan Aruch understood him. See there. </ref> | ||
==Seeing Earlier than the Veset== | |||
# Most poskim hold that if a woman saw blood before her veset and continued to see blood during her veset that blood doesn't further establish the veset but also doesn't uproot it. <ref>[http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=8339&st=&pgnum=31 Shaarei Tohar 4:21] writes that a continuation of a flow also uproots a veset just like it isn’t sufficient to establish a veset. Rabbi Willig (Am Mordechai on Shulchan Aruch p. 128) prefers this opinion. However, Igrot Moshe YD 1:122 assumes that if a woman continues to see during her veset that doesn’t establish but also doesn’t uproot the veset. Minchat Yitzchak 8:74 agrees based on the Chavot Daat 189:7. Shevet Halevi 5:107:13 is also strict.</ref> | |||
===Veset Hachodesh=== | |||
# For a veset hachodesh, seeing an earlier day during the month doesn't uproot the veset unless that day comes and passes without seeing blood.<ref>Bet Yosef 189:13(2) s.v. v'im tomar, Shach 189:31</ref> | # For a veset hachodesh, seeing an earlier day during the month doesn't uproot the veset unless that day comes and passes without seeing blood.<ref>Bet Yosef 189:13(2) s.v. v'im tomar, Shach 189:31</ref> | ||
===Veset Haflagah=== | |||
# For a veset haflagah, there is a dispute whether the shorter interval uproots a longer interval. Many poskim hold it doesn't uproot it.<ref>Bet Yosef 189:13 and Darkei Moshe 189:1 imply that a shorter period doesn't uproot a longer interval. This is also the opinion of the Taz 189:18 and [http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=36277&st=&pgnum=124 Beit Meir 189:13]. Shach 189:31 holds that it does. Badei Hashulchan (Tziyunim 132) writes that we don’t hold like the Shach that a shorter interval uproots a longer one. Shevet Halevi 2:81 and 5:107 doesn't hold like the Shach in most cases.</ref> | # For a veset haflagah, there is a dispute whether the shorter interval uproots a longer interval. Many poskim hold it doesn't uproot it.<ref>Bet Yosef 189:13 and Darkei Moshe 189:1 imply that a shorter period doesn't uproot a longer interval. This is also the opinion of the Taz 189:18 and [http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=36277&st=&pgnum=124 Beit Meir 189:13]. Shach 189:31 holds that it does. Badei Hashulchan (Tziyunim 132) writes that we don’t hold like the Shach that a shorter interval uproots a longer one. Shevet Halevi 2:81 and 5:107 doesn't hold like the Shach in most cases.</ref> | ||
# If a woman saw prior to her veset, the next haflagah interval is counted from that time she just saw and she doesn't need to worry about the veset as it fell out from the last interval. For example, if a woman saw on the 1st and 20th of Nissan, her haflagah (20 days) lands on the 9th of Iyar. But if she sees earlier on the 1st of Iyar she doesn't have to be to concerned about the 9th of Iyar since the new haflagah is calculated from the last period. Therefore, her veset haflagah would be the 12th of Iyar and the 20th of Iyar. <ref>Ramban (Hilchot Niddah 5:22) writes that if a woman sees on the 1st and 20th of Nissan and didn't see on the 1st of Iyar she's concerned about the 9th of Iyar because of the haflagah of 20 days. Bet Yosef 189:13 infers that if she did see on the 1st of Iyar she wouldn't be concerned about the 9th of Iyar. The Darkei Moshe 189:1 argues that the Ramban was giving a unique case but the halacha is that she should be concerned for the 9th of Iyar whether or not she saw on the 1st of Iyar. The Rama 189:13 rules according to his opinion in the Darkei Moshe. While the Taz 189:19 defends the position of the Rama, the Bach 189:16 and Shach 189:31 strongly disagree because once she sees for a shorter interval of 12 days she uprooted her interval of 20 days. Even if one disagrees with the Shach, another reason to disagree with the Taz is that we restart haflagah count from the last time she saw (Bach 16, Sidrei Tahara 14, [http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=36277&st=&pgnum=124 Beit Meir 189:13]). Badei HaShulchan 189:106 is lenient but adds that one who is strict for the Rama 189:13 and Taz 189:19 should be blessed.</ref> | # If a woman saw prior to her veset, the next haflagah interval is counted from that time she just saw and she doesn't need to worry about the veset as it fell out from the last interval. For example, if a woman saw on the 1st and 20th of Nissan, her haflagah (20 days) lands on the 9th of Iyar. But if she sees earlier on the 1st of Iyar she doesn't have to be to concerned about the 9th of Iyar since the new haflagah is calculated from the last period. Therefore, her veset haflagah would be the 12th of Iyar and the 20th of Iyar. <ref>Ramban (Hilchot Niddah 5:22) writes that if a woman sees on the 1st and 20th of Nissan and didn't see on the 1st of Iyar she's concerned about the 9th of Iyar because of the haflagah of 20 days. Bet Yosef 189:13 infers that if she did see on the 1st of Iyar she wouldn't be concerned about the 9th of Iyar. The Darkei Moshe 189:1 argues that the Ramban was giving a unique case but the halacha is that she should be concerned for the 9th of Iyar whether or not she saw on the 1st of Iyar. The Rama 189:13 rules according to his opinion in the Darkei Moshe. While the Taz 189:19 defends the position of the Rama, the Bach 189:16 and Shach 189:31 strongly disagree because once she sees for a shorter interval of 12 days she uprooted her interval of 20 days. Even if one disagrees with the Shach, another reason to disagree with the Taz is that we restart haflagah count from the last time she saw (Bach 16, Sidrei Tahara 14, [http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=36277&st=&pgnum=124 Beit Meir 189:13]). Badei HaShulchan 189:106 is lenient but adds that one who is strict for the Rama 189:13 and Taz 189:19 should be blessed.</ref> | ||
===Onah Beynonit=== | |||
# If a woman saw before the 30th day she doesn't need to worry about the original 30th day and just recalculates the Onah Beynonit from the last time she saw.<ref>Bach 189:16, Chavot Daat 189:13, Rabbi Akiva Eiger 189:3. This is unlike the position of the Taz 189:17.</ref> For example, if a woman saw on the 18th day after her last period she doesn't need to be concerned about the Onah Beynonit from her last interval which would land 12 days after her period (which could be her tevilah night). Rather the Onah Beynonit is reset and she is concerned for the 30th day from her last period. | # If a woman saw before the 30th day she doesn't need to worry about the original 30th day and just recalculates the Onah Beynonit from the last time she saw.<ref>Bach 189:16, Chavot Daat 189:13, Rabbi Akiva Eiger 189:3. This is unlike the position of the Taz 189:17.</ref> For example, if a woman saw on the 18th day after her last period she doesn't need to be concerned about the Onah Beynonit from her last interval which would land 12 days after her period (which could be her tevilah night). Rather the Onah Beynonit is reset and she is concerned for the 30th day from her last period. | ||
==When is the veset?== | ==When is the veset?== | ||
# Most poskim hold that all calculations are based on viewing the day from sunrise to sunset and the night from sunset to sunrise.<ref>Sidrei Tahara 184:4, Taharat Habayit v. 1 p. 59-60</ref> | # Most poskim hold that all calculations are based on viewing the day from sunrise to sunset and the night from sunset to sunrise.<ref>Sidrei Tahara 184:4, Taharat Habayit v. 1 p. 59-60</ref> | ||
==How | |||
==How Long is a Veset?== | |||
# Some Ashkenazic poskim consider a veset 24 hours, the time period when she expects to see blood and also the time period beforehand.<ref>Rav Moshe Feinstein (Igrot Moshe 3:48) is strict for the Or Zaruah.</ref> Others are lenient.<ref>[http://www.yutorah.org/lectures/lecture.cfm/867643/Rabbi%20Mordechai%20I.%20Willig/Niddah%20Shiur%2045%20-%20Timing%20of%20Avi'asaf,%20Veset%20Or%20Zaruah Rabbi Mordechai Willig (Niddah shiur 45 min 35-41)] holds that we can be lenient against the Or Zaruah since that is the opinion of the Shulchan Aruch, Rama, Taz, and Chavot Daat. Also, even the Shach who is concerned for the Or Zaruah holds that it only applies if she has a fixed veset but since most woman don't have that we can be lenient. Taharat Habayit v. 1 pp. 55-58 holds that Sephardim should follow Shulchan Aruch and don't need to follow the Or Zaruah unlike the Ben Ish Chai (Tzav no. 1).</ref> | # Some Ashkenazic poskim consider a veset 24 hours, the time period when she expects to see blood and also the time period beforehand.<ref>Rav Moshe Feinstein (Igrot Moshe 3:48) is strict for the Or Zaruah.</ref> Others are lenient.<ref>[http://www.yutorah.org/lectures/lecture.cfm/867643/Rabbi%20Mordechai%20I.%20Willig/Niddah%20Shiur%2045%20-%20Timing%20of%20Avi'asaf,%20Veset%20Or%20Zaruah Rabbi Mordechai Willig (Niddah shiur 45 min 35-41)] holds that we can be lenient against the Or Zaruah since that is the opinion of the Shulchan Aruch, Rama, Taz, and Chavot Daat. Also, even the Shach who is concerned for the Or Zaruah holds that it only applies if she has a fixed veset but since most woman don't have that we can be lenient. Taharat Habayit v. 1 pp. 55-58 holds that Sephardim should follow Shulchan Aruch and don't need to follow the Or Zaruah unlike the Ben Ish Chai (Tzav no. 1).</ref> | ||
# If a woman sees for several days we still calculate the veset based on the initial seeing of blood. <ref> | # If a woman sees for several days we still calculate the veset based on the initial seeing of blood. <ref> | ||
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* The Chavot Daat 184:7 writes that if she stopped seeing for some time and then continues to see then the next day is also considered for the veset. The Pardes Rimonim (184 Shach 16) and Taharat Habayit v. 1 p. 69 disagree.</ref> | * The Chavot Daat 184:7 writes that if she stopped seeing for some time and then continues to see then the next day is also considered for the veset. The Pardes Rimonim (184 Shach 16) and Taharat Habayit v. 1 p. 69 disagree.</ref> | ||
==What is | ==What is Forbidden during the Veset?== | ||
# Most poskim hold that really the only activity that is forbidden during a veset is for the couple to be together. However, one who is stringent to avoid any affectionate touch, hugging and kissing will be blessed.<ref>Shulchan Aruch YD 184:2 writes that only being together is forbidden. Rama 184:10 agrees. See Chatom Sofer YD 2:170 who provides a rationale for the Shulchan Aruch.</ref> Some poskim hold that hugging and kissing are forbidden.<Ref>Trumat Hadeshen 250. Badei Hashulchan 189:14 writes that the primary halacha is that we follow the Shulchan Aruch, howeve,r someone who is strict will be blessed. </ref> | # Most poskim hold that really the only activity that is forbidden during a veset is for the couple to be together. However, one who is stringent to avoid any affectionate touch, hugging and kissing will be blessed.<ref>Shulchan Aruch YD 184:2 writes that only being together is forbidden. Rama 184:10 agrees. See Chatom Sofer YD 2:170 who provides a rationale for the Shulchan Aruch.</ref> Some poskim hold that hugging and kissing are forbidden.<Ref>Trumat Hadeshen 250. Badei Hashulchan 189:14 writes that the primary halacha is that we follow the Shulchan Aruch, howeve,r someone who is strict will be blessed. </ref> | ||
# It is praiseworthy for the couple not to sleep in the same bed during the veset. <ref>Badei Hashulchan 184:14, Taharat Habayit v. 1, p. 67. Taharat Habayit forbids sleeping together even if they do not engage in tashmish, which is forbidden, as she might see blood while she's sleeping. </ref> | # It is praiseworthy for the couple not to sleep in the same bed during the veset. <ref>Badei Hashulchan 184:14, Taharat Habayit v. 1, p. 67. Taharat Habayit forbids sleeping together even if they do not engage in tashmish, which is forbidden, as she might see blood while she's sleeping. </ref> | ||
# However, the other [[harchakot]] which are forbidden when a woman is a niddah are not forbidden during the veset.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 184:2, Badei Hashulchan 184:14</ref> | # However, the other [[harchakot]] which are forbidden when a woman is a niddah are not forbidden during the veset.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 184:2, Badei Hashulchan 184:14</ref> | ||
==Veset for a Pregnant or Nursing Woman== | ==Veset for a Pregnant or Nursing Woman== | ||
# Some poskim held that if a woman knows she's pregnant because of a pregnancy test she doesn't need to be concerned for veset as long as she doesn't have a period, most poskim hold that a pregnant woman is concerned for her veset until after 90 days of pregnancy. Either way, if she's not actually seeing blood then she only needs to be concerned for her vestot for the first time unless she had an established veset. All agree that if she's actually seeing blood then she does need to be concerned for her veset as though it was a non-established veset.<ref> | # Some poskim held that if a woman knows she's pregnant because of a pregnancy test she doesn't need to be concerned for veset as long as she doesn't have a period, most poskim hold that a pregnant woman is concerned for her veset until after 90 days of pregnancy. Either way, if she's not actually seeing blood then she only needs to be concerned for her vestot for the first time unless she had an established veset. All agree that if she's actually seeing blood then she does need to be concerned for her veset as though it was a non-established veset.<ref> | ||
