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<p style="text-indent: 2em">The Shulchan Aruch 511:2 seems to rule like the Rambam, while the Rama follows the opinion of Tosfot. For a clarification of this point as well as the opinion of other major poskim, see the footnote.<ref> | <p style="text-indent: 2em">The Shulchan Aruch 511:2 seems to rule like the Rambam, while the Rama follows the opinion of Tosfot. For a clarification of this point as well as the opinion of other major poskim, see the footnote.<ref> | ||
* '''Proofs that the halacha follows Tosfot''': The Beit Yosef 511:2 simply quotes Tosfot and does not quote the reason of the Rambam. Seemingly, he holds like the Tosfot. Even though, he quotes the Rif, who says that one may not heat up water for a complete body shower, the Rif doesn't explicitly state that he agrees with the Rambam's explanation. Mishna Brurah 511:10 quotes the opinion of Tosfot and only mentions the explanation of the Rambam in the Shaar HaTziyun (511:8). Chazon Ovadyah ([[Yom Tov]] pg 41) also explains the prohibition to heat up water on Yom Tov for a full-body shower in accordance with Tosfot. | * '''Proofs that the halacha follows Tosfot''': The Beit Yosef 511:2 simply quotes Tosfot and does not quote the reason of the Rambam. Seemingly, he holds like the Tosfot. Even though, he quotes the Rif, who says that one may not heat up water for a complete body shower, the Rif doesn't explicitly state that he agrees with the Rambam's explanation. Mishna Brurah 511:10 quotes the opinion of Tosfot and only mentions the explanation of the Rambam in the Shaar HaTziyun (511:8). Chazon Ovadyah ([[Yom Tov]] pg 41) also explains the prohibition to heat up water on Yom Tov for a full-body shower in accordance with Tosfot. | ||
* '''Proof that Shulchan Aruch follows the Rambam''': The Ran (Shabbat 18b and Beitzah 11b) writes that since the Rif and Rambam hold that heating up water on Yom Tov for a full-body shower is onlyrabbinic, it is permitted to take a shower if the water was heated up before Yom Tov. According to Tosfot, who hold that heating up water on Yom Tov is a biblical prohibition, it would be prohibited to take a shower with hot water even if it was heated before Yom Tov. Beit Yosef 511:2 quotes the Ran. Shulchan Aruch 511:2 rules that it is permitted to bathe | * '''Proof that Shulchan Aruch follows the Rambam''': The Ran (Shabbat 18b and Beitzah 11b) writes that since the Rif and Rambam hold that heating up water on Yom Tov for a full-body shower is onlyrabbinic, it is permitted to take a shower if the water was heated up before Yom Tov. According to Tosfot, who hold that heating up water on Yom Tov is a biblical prohibition, it would be prohibited to take a shower with hot water even if it was heated before Yom Tov. Beit Yosef 511:2 quotes the Ran. Shulchan Aruch 511:2 rules that it is permitted to bathe one's entire body in hot water which was heated before Yom Tov, while the Rama rules that it is forbidden. Using the logic of the Ran, Shulchan Aruch follows the opinion of the Rambam, whereas the Rama follows the opinion of the Tosfot. | ||
* Assuming, as did the Ran, that the Rif holds like the Rambam, it is very reasonable to believe Shulchan Aruch follows the Rambam, since two of the three major pillars of halacha agree to that opinion. See Rav Yosef Karo's introduction to the Beit Yosef s.v. VeLeChen. See, however, the Meiri (Beitzah 21b s.v. Amar HaMeiri HaMishna HaReviyit) who explains like Tosfot but also rules like the Rif that one may completely bathe in water which was heated before Yom Tov. According to the Meiri, these two aren't necessarily related and as such, the proof as to the ruling of Shulchan Aruch isn't ironclad. | * Assuming, as did the Ran, that the Rif holds like the Rambam, it is very reasonable to believe Shulchan Aruch follows the Rambam, since two of the three major pillars of halacha agree to that opinion. See Rav Yosef Karo's introduction to the Beit Yosef s.v. VeLeChen. See, however, the Meiri (Beitzah 21b s.v. Amar HaMeiri HaMishna HaReviyit) who explains like Tosfot but also rules like the Rif that one may completely bathe in water which was heated before Yom Tov. According to the Meiri, these two aren't necessarily related and as such, the proof as to the ruling of Shulchan Aruch isn't ironclad. | ||
* '''Proofs that we're strict for both''': The Kaf HaChaim 511:13 quotes both opinions and doesn't rule definitively. The Shaar HaTziyun details a practical difference between the Rambam and Tosfot but doesn't rule either way. </ref> The Biur Halacha 511:2 D”H Yadav implies that what is considered a pleasure enjoyed by everyone depends on the time and place. (Sh”t Mayim Chaim 1:29 supports this idea.) <ref>"Changes in Sociology or Technology and Jewish Law Responses to Them: The Cases of Showering or Smoking on [[Yom Tov]]" is an RJJ article by Avi Wagner and R’ Broyde on this topic. (R’ Broyde states aware of only one posek who says “Shaave” never changes).</ref></p> | * '''Proofs that we're strict for both''': The Kaf HaChaim 511:13 quotes both opinions and doesn't rule definitively. The Shaar HaTziyun details a practical difference between the Rambam and Tosfot but doesn't rule either way. </ref> The Biur Halacha 511:2 D”H Yadav implies that what is considered a pleasure enjoyed by everyone depends on the time and place. (Sh”t Mayim Chaim 1:29 supports this idea.) <ref>"Changes in Sociology or Technology and Jewish Law Responses to Them: The Cases of Showering or Smoking on [[Yom Tov]]" is an RJJ article by Avi Wagner and R’ Broyde on this topic. (R’ Broyde states aware of only one posek who says “Shaave” never changes).</ref></p> | ||
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<p style="text-indent: 2em">One may not shower on [[Yom Tov]] with water heated on [[Yom Tov]], however, one may shower with water heated before [[Yom Tov]] as long as it is not in a bathhouse. One may shower on [[Yom Tov]] Sheni with water heated by an electric heater on [[Yom Tov]] Rishon, provided there is no incoming cold water that will be heated as it enters the tank. Water that was heated in a solar boiler (common in Israel) is considered like water that was heated before [[Yom Tov]] and one could shower one’s whole body in them on [[Yom Tov]]. <ref>Rav Ovadyah Yosef (Chazon Ovadya [[Yom Tov]] p. 41 and p. 157), Yalkut Yosef Shabbat Volume 4 Siman 326 page 58 </ref></p> | <p style="text-indent: 2em">One may not shower on [[Yom Tov]] with water heated on [[Yom Tov]], however, one may shower with water heated before [[Yom Tov]] as long as it is not in a bathhouse. One may shower on [[Yom Tov]] Sheni with water heated by an electric heater on [[Yom Tov]] Rishon, provided there is no incoming cold water that will be heated as it enters the tank. Water that was heated in a solar boiler (common in Israel) is considered like water that was heated before [[Yom Tov]] and one could shower one’s whole body in them on [[Yom Tov]]. <ref>Rav Ovadyah Yosef (Chazon Ovadya [[Yom Tov]] p. 41 and p. 157), Yalkut Yosef Shabbat Volume 4 Siman 326 page 58 </ref></p> | ||
<p style="text-indent: 2em">Based on a new ruling of Rav Ovadia Yosef Shlita, in the Diaspora, when [[Yom Tov]] falls out on Thursday and Friday and leads into [[Shabbat]], colloquially known as a Three Day [[Yom Tov]], it is permissible to take a shower on [[Yom Tov]] as long as the water in the boiler was boiling before [[Yom Tov]] even if there is incoming water that will be heated as it enters the boiler. <ref>http://www.halachayomit.co.il/displayRead.asp?ReadID=1996</ref></p> | <p style="text-indent: 2em">Based on a new ruling of Rav Ovadia Yosef Shlita, in the Diaspora, when [[Yom Tov]] falls out on Thursday and Friday and leads into [[Shabbat]], colloquially known as a Three Day [[Yom Tov]], it is permissible to take a shower on [[Yom Tov]] as long as the water in the boiler was boiling before [[Yom Tov]] even if there is incoming water that will be heated as it enters the boiler. <ref>Rabbi Gavriel Elbaz (author of the English HalachaYomit site) as well as a few other Rabbis sent a question to Rav Ovadia Yosef Shlita as to whether the lenient position Rav Ovadia Yosef took regarding a solar boiler could be applied to an electric boiler. The final ruling of Rav Ovadia Yosef can be found on [http://www.halachayomit.co.il/displayRead.asp?ReadID=1996 HalachaYomit.co.il in Hebrew] as well as [http://www.halachayomit.co.il/EnglishDisplayRead.asp?readID=2180 HalachaYomit.co.il in English].</ref></p> | ||
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* (5) Mishna Brurah 551:9 and 18 rules (like the Rama) that one may not take a shower a full body shower with hot water on [[Yom Tov]] whether the water was heated on [[Yom Tov]] or before, however, one may wash one's whole body part by part with water heated before [[Yom Tov]] and one may heat up water on [[Yom Tov]] to wash one's hands, feet, and face. | * (5) Mishna Brurah 551:9 and 18 rules (like the Rama) that one may not take a shower a full body shower with hot water on [[Yom Tov]] whether the water was heated on [[Yom Tov]] or before, however, one may wash one's whole body part by part with water heated before [[Yom Tov]] and one may heat up water on [[Yom Tov]] to wash one's hands, feet, and face. | ||
* (6) In conclusion whether or not this definition of "a pleasurable activity enjoyed by all" in halacha can change most poskim are unwilling to rule leniently and rule in accordance with the Mishna Brurah even nowadays. This is the opinion of Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 14:7 (in old and new edition), [http://www.thehalacha.com/attach/Volume3/Issue18.pdf Halachically Speaking] quoting Horav Yisroel Belsky, Rivevot Ephraim i6:265, 8:248:1, Sh"t Tzitz Eliezer 6:20, 11:64, Avnei Yushfei 3:55 quoting Rav Elyashiv. [In the footnote (#21) of Shemirat [[Shabbat]] Kehilchata he discusses the topic at length and shows that there is some reason to be lenient but nonetheless doesn't rule that way.] | * (6) In conclusion whether or not this definition of "a pleasurable activity enjoyed by all" in halacha can change most poskim are unwilling to rule leniently and rule in accordance with the Mishna Brurah even nowadays. This is the opinion of Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 14:7 (in old and new edition), [http://www.thehalacha.com/attach/Volume3/Issue18.pdf Halachically Speaking] quoting Horav Yisroel Belsky, Rivevot Ephraim i6:265, 8:248:1, Sh"t Tzitz Eliezer 6:20, 11:64, Avnei Yushfei 3:55 quoting Rav Elyashiv. [In the footnote (#21) of Shemirat [[Shabbat]] Kehilchata he discusses the topic at length and shows that there is some reason to be lenient but nonetheless doesn't rule that way.] | ||
* (7) Rabbi Simcha Bunim Cohen in his book "The Laws of [[Yom Tov]]" basically agrees to all of the above and adds that it's customary to refrain from even a cold shower on [[Yom Tov]] unless there it is a case of discomfort and that it's permitted to heat up water on [[Yom Tov]] for the purpose of washing a minor part of the body. Lastly, Rav Simcha Bunim Cohen adds that washing any part of the body in a shower or bathtub is forbidden unless one is partly clothed. Rav Chaim Jachter on [http://www.koltorah.org/ravj/Showering_on_Yom_Tov_1.html koltorah.org] points out that one should not distinguish in this regard between the first and second day of yom tov simply because the second day is rabbinic, as the Aruch Hashulchan 511:11 says this is degrading to [[Yom Tov]] | * (7) Rabbi Simcha Bunim Cohen in his book "The Laws of [[Yom Tov]]" basically agrees to all of the above and adds that it's customary to refrain from even a cold shower on [[Yom Tov]] unless there it is a case of discomfort and that it's permitted to heat up water on [[Yom Tov]] for the purpose of washing a minor part of the body. Lastly, Rav Simcha Bunim Cohen adds that washing any part of the body in a shower or bathtub is forbidden unless one is partly clothed. Rav Chaim Jachter on [http://www.koltorah.org/ravj/Showering_on_Yom_Tov_1.html koltorah.org] points out that one should not distinguish in this regard between the first and second day of yom tov simply because the second day is rabbinic, as the Aruch Hashulchan 511:11 says this is degrading to [[Yom Tov sheni]]. </ref> | ||
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