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[https://player.fm/series/yutorah-r-aryeh-lebowitz-recent-shiurim-1315098/ten-minute-halacha-rav-schachters-position-on-showering-on-yom-tov Rav Aryeh Lebowitz (March 2017) reexplained the issue and Rav Schachter's position and he retracted from his initial explanation of Rav Schachter's opinion. There he explained that Rav Schachter was only lenient if it is just warm enough that it is to remove the coldness of the water. The reason being that Shaar Hatziyun 511:25 citing Rabbi Akiva Eiger discusses whether the gezerah habaalanim only applies to yad soledet or even lukewarm. Bet Meir holds that lukewarm water is an issue. However, if it isn't warm but it is just removing the chill everyone agrees that gezerah habaalanim is permitted. | [https://player.fm/series/yutorah-r-aryeh-lebowitz-recent-shiurim-1315098/ten-minute-halacha-rav-schachters-position-on-showering-on-yom-tov Rav Aryeh Lebowitz (March 2017) reexplained the issue and Rav Schachter's position and he retracted from his initial explanation of Rav Schachter's opinion. There he explained that Rav Schachter was only lenient if it is just warm enough that it is to remove the coldness of the water. The reason being that Shaar Hatziyun 511:25 citing Rabbi Akiva Eiger discusses whether the gezerah habaalanim only applies to yad soledet or even lukewarm. Bet Meir holds that lukewarm water is an issue. However, if it isn't warm but it is just removing the chill everyone agrees that gezerah habaalanim is permitted. | ||
*(3) Sh”t Mayim Chayim 1:29 (Rav Chaim Dovid HaLevi, Tel Aviv, 1991) agrees with the above proof, however, he disagrees with the assumption that nowadays the common custom is to shower daily and it’s not sufficient that it’s the custom to shower regularly (even once in two days). [He does admit that if he were in a very hot climate and it was actually the custom for everyone to take a shower every single morning then he’d permit.] (This is similar to the position taken by the Chazon Yechezkel Beitzah 2:7 but Shemirat | *(3) Sh”t Mayim Chayim 1:29 (Rav Chaim Dovid HaLevi, Tel Aviv, 1991) agrees with the above proof, however, he disagrees with the assumption that nowadays the common custom is to shower daily and it’s not sufficient that it’s the custom to shower regularly (even once in two days). [He does admit that if he were in a very hot climate and it was actually the custom for everyone to take a shower every single morning then he’d permit.] (This is similar to the position taken by the Chazon Yechezkel Beitzah 2:7 but Shemirat Shabbat Kehilchata 21 note 21 questions it.) | ||
*(4) However, Sh”t Bear Moshe 8:158-9 (Rav Moshe Stern, Brooklyn, NY, 1987) argues that the above sources aren’t a proof because in all those cases the contemporary custom was only considered in order to create a stringency beyond that which that was ruled in Shulchan Aruch. Therefore, Bear Moshe is unwilling to consider permitting heating water to shower on [[Yom Tov]]. | *(4) However, Sh”t Bear Moshe 8:158-9 (Rav Moshe Stern, Brooklyn, NY, 1987) argues that the above sources aren’t a proof because in all those cases the contemporary custom was only considered in order to create a stringency beyond that which that was ruled in Shulchan Aruch. Therefore, Bear Moshe is unwilling to consider permitting heating water to shower on [[Yom Tov]]. | ||
*(5) Mishna Brurah 551:9 and 18 rules (like the Rama) that one may not take a shower a full body shower with hot water on [[Yom Tov]] whether the water was heated on [[Yom Tov]] or before, however, one may wash one's whole body part by part with water heated before [[Yom Tov]] and one may heat up water on [[Yom Tov]] to wash one's hands, feet, and face. | *(5) Mishna Brurah 551:9 and 18 rules (like the Rama) that one may not take a shower a full body shower with hot water on [[Yom Tov]] whether the water was heated on [[Yom Tov]] or before, however, one may wash one's whole body part by part with water heated before [[Yom Tov]] and one may heat up water on [[Yom Tov]] to wash one's hands, feet, and face. | ||
*(6) In conclusion whether or not this definition of "a pleasurable activity enjoyed by all" in halacha can change most poskim are unwilling to rule leniently and rule in accordance with the Mishna Brurah even nowadays. This is the opinion of Shemirat | *(6) In conclusion whether or not this definition of "a pleasurable activity enjoyed by all" in halacha can change most poskim are unwilling to rule leniently and rule in accordance with the Mishna Brurah even nowadays. This is the opinion of Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 14:7 (in old and new edition), [http://www.thehalacha.com/attach/Volume3/Issue18.pdf Halachically Speaking] quoting Horav Yisroel Belsky, Rivevot Ephraim i6:265, 8:248:1, Sh"t Tzitz Eliezer 6:20, 11:64, Avnei Yushfei 3:55 quoting Rav Elyashiv. [In the footnote (#21) of Shemirat Shabbat Kehilchata he discusses the topic at length and shows that there is some reason to be lenient but nonetheless doesn't rule that way.] | ||
*(7) Rabbi Simcha Bunim Cohen in his book "The Laws of [[Yom Tov]]" basically agrees to all of the above and adds that it's customary to refrain from even a cold shower on [[Yom Tov]] unless there it is a case of discomfort and that it's permitted to heat up water on [[Yom Tov]] for the purpose of washing a minor part of the body. Lastly, Rav Simcha Bunim Cohen adds that washing any part of the body in a shower or bathtub is forbidden unless one is partly clothed. Rav Chaim Jachter on [http://www.koltorah.org/ravj/Showering_on_Yom_Tov_1.html koltorah.org] points out that one should not distinguish in this regard between the first and second day of [[yom tov]] simply because the second day is rabbinic, as the Aruch Hashulchan 511:11 says this is degrading to [[Yom tov sheni]].</ref> | *(7) Rabbi Simcha Bunim Cohen in his book "The Laws of [[Yom Tov]]" basically agrees to all of the above and adds that it's customary to refrain from even a cold shower on [[Yom Tov]] unless there it is a case of discomfort and that it's permitted to heat up water on [[Yom Tov]] for the purpose of washing a minor part of the body. Lastly, Rav Simcha Bunim Cohen adds that washing any part of the body in a shower or bathtub is forbidden unless one is partly clothed. Rav Chaim Jachter on [http://www.koltorah.org/ravj/Showering_on_Yom_Tov_1.html koltorah.org] points out that one should not distinguish in this regard between the first and second day of [[yom tov]] simply because the second day is rabbinic, as the Aruch Hashulchan 511:11 says this is degrading to [[Yom tov sheni]].</ref> | ||
