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# After the fact if one took all four species (before making the Bracha), one may still make the Bracha as long as one didn’t shake it yet.<ref>Tosfot Pesachim 7b s.v. bidna, Rosh Sukka 3:33, Chayei Adam 148:11, Mishna Brurah 651:27, and Yalkut Yosef (Kitzur S”A 651:14). The Rabbeinu Nissim Sukka 20b "U'Midefarchinan" says that this is permitted even lechatchilah. The Bikkurei Yaakov 651:20 extends it to the entire [[hallel]] and the Aruch Hashulchan 651:14 says that as long as your still holding your [[lulav]] you can still say the beracha. Shaar Hatziyun 651:32 however rejects this opinion. </ref> | # After the fact if one took all four species (before making the Bracha), one may still make the Bracha as long as one didn’t shake it yet.<ref>Tosfot Pesachim 7b s.v. bidna, Rosh Sukka 3:33, Chayei Adam 148:11, Mishna Brurah 651:27, and Yalkut Yosef (Kitzur S”A 651:14). The Rabbeinu Nissim Sukka 20b "U'Midefarchinan" says that this is permitted even lechatchilah. The Bikkurei Yaakov 651:20 extends it to the entire [[hallel]] and the Aruch Hashulchan 651:14 says that as long as your still holding your [[lulav]] you can still say the beracha. Shaar Hatziyun 651:32 however rejects this opinion. </ref> | ||
===In the Sukkah=== | ===In the Sukkah=== | ||
# Some have the minhag to shake the lulav after reciting the bracha in the Sukkah before praying Shacharit and then additionally to shake the Lulav during Hallel (without repeating the beracha),<ref>This practice is mentioned by the Mishna Brura 652:4</ref> while most recite the beracha in shul after Chazarat Hashatz of Shacharit, before Hallel<ref>Shulchan Aruch O.C. | # Some have the minhag to shake the lulav after reciting the bracha in the Sukkah before praying Shacharit and then additionally to shake the Lulav during Hallel (without repeating the beracha),<ref>This practice is mentioned by the Mishna Brura 652:4</ref> while most recite the beracha in shul after Chazarat Hashatz of Shacharit, before Hallel.<ref>Shulchan Aruch O.C. 644:1</ref> Some specifically prefer that the bracha be made right before the hallel so that there isn’t an interruption between the bracha and the shaking the lulav in the hallel, one of the primary mitzvot of the lulav.<ref>Nefesh Harav p. 217, Rav Tzvi Pesach Frank in Mikraei Kodesh 2:16</ref> Alternatively, some argue that based on the principle of tadir kodem, giving precedence to the common mitzvah, one must daven Shacharit before shaking the lulav.<ref>Shu"t Igrot Moshe OC 4:99 writes that the practice to do so earlier in the Sukkah is only for very unique individuals who are very careful to carry the lulav everywhere. However, generally it is a violation of tadir kodem. Additionally, Teshuvot Vehanagot 5:216 notes that this was the practice of the Rav Velve Soloveitchik to recite the bracha on lulav before Hallel. Similarly, | ||
[https://www.torahanytime.com/#/lectures?v=67781 Rav Yitzchak Yosef (Motzei Shabbat Haazinu 5779 min. 6)] explains that his father, Rav Ovadia Yosef, never took the lulav to shake it in the Sukkah. Rav Hershel Schachter (cited in Sukkos Packet for Young Israel of Woodmere 5781 p. 6) records that this was also Rav Soloveitchik's practice to shake the lulav in shul before Hallel.</ref> | |||
==Set up of the Arba Minim== | ==Set up of the Arba Minim== | ||
