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====Sinners====
====Sinners====
# A gambler, someone who collects interest, and someone who profits from produce produced during shemita are examples of invalid witnesses in general and specifically for Kiddushin.<ref> Mishna Sanhedrin 24b. The Gemara explains that all of these fall under the category of theft because people who violate laws when it comes to money cannot be trusted in telling the truth in general.</ref>  
# A gambler, someone who collects interest, and someone who profits from produce produced during shemita are examples of invalid witnesses in general and specifically for Kiddushin.<ref> Mishna Sanhedrin 24b. The Gemara explains that all of these fall under the category of theft because people who violate laws when it comes to money cannot be trusted in telling the truth in general.</ref>  
==Signing the Ketubah==
# Many have the practice to sign the Ketubah before the kiddushin at the Chosson's tisch. However, some sign it underneath the chuppah. <ref>Rav Ovadia Yosef (Sova Semachot 1:5:12) </ref>
# It is proper to have the ketubah dated the same date as the chuppah occurs, however, after the fact if it was predated and there was a kinyan at the time of the signing on the earlier day, some allow such a ketubah<ref>Nefesh HaRav (p. 260) records Rav Soloveitchik's practice later in life to allow a predated ketubah if they did a kinyan at the time of the signing. Ketubah K'hilchata (p. 21, 4:12) allows writing the daytime date if they also do the kinyan at that time.</ref>, while others reject such a ketubah.<ref>Igrot Moshe EH 4:100, EH 4:105, OC 5:9 was opposed because the ketubah is only collectable after the couple is married and the date in the ketubah doesn't reflect the date of the marriage. [http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=13101&pgnum=61 Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach in a teshuva] writes that it is signing a lie to sign a ketubah that was predated even if they did the kinyan since they didn't actually get married then and the ketubah states that they got married. Ketubah K'hilchata 4:10 cites both opinions and sides with stringent opinion.</ref>
# If the ketubah was predated, that is, it was dated for a day prior to the actual wedding and prior to the actual kinyan for the ketubah, the ketubah is invalid.<ref>Rosh Hashana 2a, Ketubah K'hilchata (p. 20, 4:10)</ref>
# Initially it isn't proper to date a Ketubah for the night if it is signed during the day, though if one did so, it is kosher.<ref>Ketubah K'hilchata 4:13</ref>
# For more details about the Ketubah see the [[Introduction to Kesuba]] page.


==The Beracha for Kiddushin (Birkat Erusin)==
==The Beracha for Kiddushin (Birkat Erusin)==