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# It is proper to specify witnesses for the Kiddushin, however, if a mistake occurred and the witnesses were invalid, the marriage is valid as long as other kosher witnesses were watching.<ref>The Ritva (Macot 6a s.v. Lemechzi) writes that some have the minhag to specify edim for a wedding since according to Rashi the kosher edim need to have intention to join together as a pair at the time that they see the event, however, the Ritva finds this opinion difficult because the gemara Kiddushin 43a implies that one doesn't have to specify edim. Nefesh HaRav (p. 261) quoting Rav Soloveitchik says that it is proper to specify edim but if one didn't the kiddushin is valid if there were other edim there. Nitai Gavriel (Nesuin vol. 1 20:5, p. 140) agrees and adds that it is a wise idea to specify edim so that they pay attention to watch the kiddushin. See Chatom Sofer EH 100 and Achiezer EH 27. See also [http://www.yutorah.org/lectures/lecture.cfm/820596/Rabbi_Aryeh_Lebowitz/From_The_Rabbi's_Desk_-_Wedding_Questions From_The_Rabbi's_Desk_-_Wedding_Questions] by Rabbi Aryeh Lebowitz. </ref> | # It is proper to specify witnesses for the Kiddushin, however, if a mistake occurred and the witnesses were invalid, the marriage is valid as long as other kosher witnesses were watching.<ref>The Ritva (Macot 6a s.v. Lemechzi) writes that some have the minhag to specify edim for a wedding since according to Rashi the kosher edim need to have intention to join together as a pair at the time that they see the event, however, the Ritva finds this opinion difficult because the gemara Kiddushin 43a implies that one doesn't have to specify edim. Nefesh HaRav (p. 261) quoting Rav Soloveitchik says that it is proper to specify edim but if one didn't the kiddushin is valid if there were other edim there. Nitai Gavriel (Nesuin vol. 1 20:5, p. 140) agrees and adds that it is a wise idea to specify edim so that they pay attention to watch the kiddushin. See Chatom Sofer EH 100 and Achiezer EH 27. See also [http://www.yutorah.org/lectures/lecture.cfm/820596/Rabbi_Aryeh_Lebowitz/From_The_Rabbi's_Desk_-_Wedding_Questions From_The_Rabbi's_Desk_-_Wedding_Questions] by Rabbi Aryeh Lebowitz. </ref> | ||
# Some hold that it is critical for the witnesses to see the bride's face at the time of the Kiddushin.<ref>Pitchei Teshuva EH 31:5</ref> However, in some communities as a matter of modesty (tzeniyut) the bride's face isn't uncovered.<ref>Rama EH 31:2, Nitai Gavriel (Nesuin v. 1, 20:10, p. 141)</ref> | |||
==Procedure of Tenayim== | ==Procedure of Tenayim== | ||
