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# The old minhag was to write the Tenayim at the time of engagement in order to impose a monetary penalty on the party that backs out from the marriage. However, today it isn't written at all or only written immediately before marriage. <ref>[http://www.yutorah.org/lectures/lecture.cfm/827065/Rabbi_Hershel_Schachter/Seder_Kiddushin_and_Nesuin Rav Schachter in "Seder Kiddushin and Nesuin" (min 1-2)]</ref> | # The old minhag was to write the Tenayim at the time of engagement in order to impose a monetary penalty on the party that backs out from the marriage. However, today it isn't written at all or only written immediately before marriage. <ref>[http://www.yutorah.org/lectures/lecture.cfm/827065/Rabbi_Hershel_Schachter/Seder_Kiddushin_and_Nesuin Rav Schachter in "Seder Kiddushin and Nesuin" (min 1-2)]</ref> | ||
# For those who write tenayim prior to the wedding, here's a text according to Rav Moshe Feinstein and the text of other gedolim: [http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=46545&pgnum=377 Nitai Gavriel Nesuin v. 1 p. 377]. | # For those who write tenayim prior to the wedding, here's a text according to Rav Moshe Feinstein and the text of other gedolim: [http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=46545&pgnum=377 Nitai Gavriel Nesuin v. 1 p. 377]. | ||
==Signing the Ketubah== | |||
# Many have the practice to sign the Ketubah before the kiddushin at the Chosson's tisch. However, some sign it underneath the chuppah. <ref>Rav Ovadia Yosef (Sova Semachot 1:5:12) </ref> | |||
# It is proper to have the ketubah dated the same date as the chuppah occurs, however, after the fact if it was predated and there was a kinyan at the time of the signing on the earlier day, some allow such a ketubah<ref>Nefesh HaRav (p. 260) records Rav Soloveitchik's practice later in life to allow a predated ketubah if they did a kinyan at the time of the signing. Ketubah K'hilchata (p. 21, 4:12) allows writing the daytime date if they also do the kinyan at that time.</ref>, while others reject such a ketubah.<ref>Igrot Moshe EH 4:100, EH 4:105, OC 5:9 was opposed because the ketubah is only collectable after the couple is married and the date in the ketubah doesn't reflect the date of the marriage. [http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=13101&pgnum=61 Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach in a teshuva] writes that it is signing a lie to sign a ketubah that was predated even if they did the kinyan since they didn't actually get married then and the ketubah states that they got married.</ref> | |||
# If the ketubah was predated, that is, it was dated for a day prior to the actual wedding and prior to the actual kinyan for the ketubah, the ketubah is invalid.<ref>Rosh Hashana 2a, Ketubah K'hilchata (p. 20, 4:10)</ref> | |||
==The Beracha for Kiddushin (Birkat Erusin)== | ==The Beracha for Kiddushin (Birkat Erusin)== | ||
