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* See Dirshu 90:32 who cites the Chavaselet Hasharon 2 and Orchot Rabbenu v. 1 p. 51 that even the Tzlach never meant that it is considered tefillah btzibur. </ref> | * See Dirshu 90:32 who cites the Chavaselet Hasharon 2 and Orchot Rabbenu v. 1 p. 51 that even the Tzlach never meant that it is considered tefillah btzibur. </ref> | ||
# Someone from Diaspora who is davening a weekday Shemona Esrei with an Israeli minyan on the second day of Yom Tov that is considered Tefillah Btzibur.<ref>Yom Tov Sheni Khilchato (9:6 cited by Dirshu 90:32) quoting Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach and Rav Elyashiv</ref> In the opposite case with an Israeli in the Diaspora davening a weekday Shemona Esrei with the congregation davening a Yom Tov Shemona Esrei is a dispute if that is Tefillah Btzibur.<ref>Yom Tov Sheni Khilchato (ch. 3 fnt. 43-5, cited by Dirshu 90:32)</ref> | # Someone from Diaspora who is davening a weekday Shemona Esrei with an Israeli minyan on the second day of Yom Tov that is considered Tefillah Btzibur.<ref>Yom Tov Sheni Khilchato (9:6 cited by Dirshu 90:32) quoting Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach and Rav Elyashiv</ref> In the opposite case with an Israeli in the Diaspora davening a weekday Shemona Esrei with the congregation davening a Yom Tov Shemona Esrei is a dispute if that is Tefillah Btzibur.<ref>Yom Tov Sheni Khilchato (ch. 3 fnt. 43-5, cited by Dirshu 90:32)</ref> | ||
===Davening in an Adjacent Room=== | |||
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# If there is a larger room and a smaller room completely open to that larger one if the majority of the minyan is in the large room that is considered one minyan. If the majority of the minyan is in the small room they don't combine.<ref>Gemara Eruvin 92b. Tosfot 92b s.v. Tisha explains that the gemara is relevant to joining together for a minyan. Shulchan Aruch O.C. 55:16 quotes this gemara as the halacha.</ref> | |||
# Some say that as long members of the minyan can see each other they can join together for a minyan.<ref>Shulchan Aruch O.C. 55:14</ref> One should only rely on this opinion in an extenuating circumstance.<ref>Mishna Brurah 55:57</ref> | |||
==Who Counts for a Minyan?== | ==Who Counts for a Minyan?== | ||
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# If it is going to cause a loss of teaching Torah in public such as if one will miss giving a public shuir, one should miss [[minyan]] in order not to miss that opportunity of giving shiur. <Ref>Mishna Brurah 90:56 writes that one who is going to give a shuir to the public may not miss out on the opportunity in order to go to a [[minyan]].</ref> | # If it is going to cause a loss of teaching Torah in public such as if one will miss giving a public shuir, one should miss [[minyan]] in order not to miss that opportunity of giving shiur. <Ref>Mishna Brurah 90:56 writes that one who is going to give a shuir to the public may not miss out on the opportunity in order to go to a [[minyan]].</ref> | ||
==Missing Minyan to daven at a More Optimal Time== | |||
===Shacharit=== | |||
# If one always davens vatikin one can daven then by oneself rather than daven with a minyan later.<ref> Biur Halacha 58:1 s.v. umitzvah</ref> Sephardim would prefer davening with a minyan later unless one has more kavana at vatikin.<ref>Yalkut Yosef 89:18</ref> | |||
# If the only minyan available is one that davens after Olot before Meshyakir many say that it is better to daven by oneself.<ref>Biur Halacha 89:1 s.v. yatza, Avnei Yishfe p. 167 quotes Rav Elyashiv, Pri Yitzchak s.v. nachzor 1:2</ref> Some disagree.<ref>Avnei Yishfe p. 168 quoting Rav Ben Tzion Abba Shaul, Igrot Moshe 4:6 s.v. im ken </ref> See [[When_Is_the_Earliest_and_Latest_Time_to_Pray%3F#Pre-Msheyakir]] | |||
# If the only minyan available is one that davens after Olot before Netz, some say that it is better to daven by oneself<ref>Sh”t Sheilot Shmuel OC 12, Rav Elyashiv (quoted in Avnei Yashfei [[Tefillah]] page 167), Yalkut Yosef ([[Tefilla]] pages 137-139, 89:14)</ref> and some hold that it is better to daven with the minyan.<Ref>[http://www.ou.org/webcast_kosher Rabbi Yisrael Belsky] (OU Kosher Webcast, min 19:30-28:30), Igrot Moshe 4:6 s.v. im ken, Peri Yitzchak 1:2, Sh"t Yaskil Avdi 5:10, Sh"t Minchat Yitzchak 9:10, Chazon Ish (Ishei Yisrael 13:note 21)</ref> See [[When_Is_the_Earliest_and_Latest_Time_to_Pray%3F#Pre-Netz]] | |||
# If the only minyan available is davening after the third hour of the day it is better to daven with the minyan and say Shema earlier rather than daven by oneself.<ref>Rama 46:9, Igrot Moshe O.C. 4:6 s.v. im ken</ref> Some have a doubt about this case.<ref>Biur Halacha 46:9 s.v. ki) isn't sure whether the Gra would prefer to daven by oneself with Kriyat Shema in the right time with Brachot and then juxtapose Shema to Shemona Esrei or not.</ref> | |||
===Mincha=== | |||
# If the minyan is davening during Ben Hashemashot after Shekiya, according to Ashkenazim it is better to daven oneself before Shekiya,<ref> Mishna Brurah 233:14</ref> and according to Sephardim it is preferable to wait for the minyan rather than daven by oneself before shekiya.<ref>Yalkut Yosef 89:16, Chacham Ben Zion Abba Shaul (cited in Ishei Yisroel page 296) and Chacham Ovadia Yosef (Yechave Daat 5:22)</ref> See [[When_Is_the_Earliest_and_Latest_Time_to_Pray%3F#Ideal_Time_for_Mincha]] | |||
# According to Sephardim it is ideal to daven mincha ketana and not mincha gedola. Yet, if the only minyan available is one that prays at mincha gedola it is preferable to daven with them rather than daven on one's own.<ref>Yalkut Yosef 89:15</ref> | |||
===Maariv=== | |||
# If the only minyan available is one that is before tzet hakochavim after shekiya one should daven with them rather than daven by oneself.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 235:1</ref> There's a minority opinion that advises praying oneself.<ref>Even though the Gra (Maaseh rav n. 65 cited by Biur Halacha 235:1 s.v. vim) davened by himself rather than daven with the minyan before tzet, Igrot Moshe 2:60 s.v. val kol panim writes that since it is against most rishonim one shouldn't follow it unless one follows the Gra for everything. Piksei Teshuvot 235 fnt. 26 quotes the Kesot Hashulchan 26:12 who writes that if someone always davens before tzet hakochavim he should continue to do so without a minyan rather than daven early with a minyan.</ref> | |||
# If the only minyan available is one that is before shekiyah after plag mincha when one already said mincha before plag mincha one should daven with the minyan rather than daven by oneself.<ref>Shulchan Aruch O.C. 235:1, Mishna Brurah 235:8</ref> | |||
# If the only minyan available is one that is before shekiyah after plag mincha when one already said mincha after plag mincha one should daven by oneself rather than join such a minyan.<Ref>Shaar Hatziyun 235:16 writes that one shouldn't daven with a minyan before shekiya if on that same day one already davened mincha after plag hamincha.</ref> | |||
==On an Airplane== | ==On an Airplane== | ||
# Many poskim rule that one should not make a minyan when flying on an airplane. <ref> Halichot Shlomo page 95, Igrot Moshe OC 4:20, [http://www.torahweb.org/torah/special/2010/rsch_airplanes.html Rabbi Hershel Schachter] </ref> | # Many poskim rule that one should not make a minyan when flying on an airplane. <ref> Halichot Shlomo page 95, Igrot Moshe OC 4:20, [http://www.torahweb.org/torah/special/2010/rsch_airplanes.html Rabbi Hershel Schachter on torahweb.org] </ref> | ||
==Links== | ==Links== | ||
