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# If three ate together and one person left he could be called back and Zimmun could be said even if he’s standing by the door next to them, however he should say Birkat HaMazon where he ate. However, if ten people ate together and one left he should be called back and everyone should sit down for Zimmun. <Ref>S”A 194:2, Mishna Brurah 194:8 </ref> | # If three ate together and one person left he could be called back and Zimmun could be said even if he’s standing by the door next to them, however he should say Birkat HaMazon where he ate. However, if ten people ate together and one left he should be called back and everyone should sit down for Zimmun. <Ref>S”A 194:2, Mishna Brurah 194:8 </ref> | ||
# If in a school or yeshiva, the students go to lunch at the same time, the group can make Zimmun together even if they sit at separate tables as long as they can see from one table to another. Even if they don’t have enough at each table to make their own Zimmun of ten, they can join together to make a Zimmun of ten. However, it’s preferable that they one time actual say verbally that they intend to eat together. <ref> Yalkut Yosef (vol 3 pg 375) </ref> | # If in a school or yeshiva, the students go to lunch at the same time, the group can make Zimmun together even if they sit at separate tables as long as they can see from one table to another. Even if they don’t have enough at each table to make their own Zimmun of ten, they can join together to make a Zimmun of ten. However, it’s preferable that they one time actual say verbally that they intend to eat together. <ref> Yalkut Yosef (vol 3 pg 375) </ref> | ||
==Two who ate together=== | |||
# Two who ate together can’t obligated in Zimmun and so they should say Birkat HaMazon to themselves. However, if one doesn’t know how to say Birkat HaMazon and one does, then the one who knows may say it aloud and fulfill the obligation of the one who doesn’t know as long as the one saying has intent to fulfill the obligation of the other, and the one listening has intent to fulfill his obligation. <ref>S”A 193:1 </ref> | |||
# According to some it’s crucial that the one who is listening in order to fulfill his obligation must understand the birkat hamazon, while others are lenient and defend the minhag. <Ref>Mishna Brurah 193:5 </ref> | |||
==Who can join a Zimmun== | ==Who can join a Zimmun== | ||
# The Ashkenazic minhag is not to include children under Bar mitzvah for zimmun<Ref>Rama 199:10 </ref>, while the Sephardic minhag is to include children of age 6 who know to whom they are saying Birkat HaMazon. <ref>S"A 199:10, Sh"t Yechava Daat 4:13 </ref> | # The Ashkenazic minhag is not to include children under Bar mitzvah for zimmun<Ref>Rama 199:10 </ref>, while the Sephardic minhag is to include children of age 6 who know to whom they are saying Birkat HaMazon. <ref>S"A 199:10, Sh"t Yechava Daat 4:13 </ref> | ||
