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# One should say Al Neharot Bavel before benching after a meal and on days when there’s no tachanun one should say Shir HaMaalot BeShuv Hashem instead. The minhag is to say Shir HaMaalot at Seudot mitzvah as well. <Ref>Mishna Brurah 1:10,11, Piskei Teshuvot 1:14 in the footnote. See also http://www.yutorah.org/lectures/lecture.cfm/744860/Rabbi_Aryeh_Lebowitz/Ten_Minute_Halacha_-_Al_Naharos_Bavel_and_Shir_Hama'alos </ref> | # One should say Al Neharot Bavel before benching after a meal and on days when there’s no tachanun one should say Shir HaMaalot BeShuv Hashem instead. The minhag is to say Shir HaMaalot at Seudot mitzvah as well. <Ref>Mishna Brurah 1:10,11, Piskei Teshuvot 1:14 in the footnote. See also http://www.yutorah.org/lectures/lecture.cfm/744860/Rabbi_Aryeh_Lebowitz/Ten_Minute_Halacha_-_Al_Naharos_Bavel_and_Shir_Hama'alos </ref> | ||
==Obligation of Zimmun== | ==Obligation of Zimmun== | ||
# If three people eat together are obligated to make a Zimmun before benching (making | # If three people eat together are obligated to make a Zimmun before benching (making [[Birkat HaMazon]]). <ref> S”A 192:1 </ref> Chazal based it on the pasuk “גדלו לה" אתי ונרוממה ה" יחדיו” <ref> Tehilim 34 </ref> and “כי שם ה" אקרא הבו גודל לאלוקונו” <ref> Devarim 30. Gemara Brachot 45 quoted by the Mishna Brurah 192:1. </ref>. | ||
# Most authorities consider Zimmun to be a rabbinic obligation. <ref> Pri Megadim (A”A 197:2) writes that most authorities consider zimmun to be of rabbinic obligation. Chaye Adam 48:1 writes that Zimmun is derabbanan and some say it’s Deoritta. Chazon Ish (31:1) argues that Zimmun should be Deoritta. </ref> | # Most authorities consider Zimmun to be a rabbinic obligation. <ref> Pri Megadim (A”A 197:2) writes that most authorities consider zimmun to be of rabbinic obligation. Chaye Adam 48:1 writes that Zimmun is derabbanan and some say it’s Deoritta. Chazon Ish (31:1) argues that Zimmun should be Deoritta. </ref> | ||
# Zimmun could be said in any language as the purpose is to introduce the benching orally and join the group together to praise Hashem. <ref> Zohar (Balak pg 186b) writes that it’s important to precede benching with “give us a cup to bench” in Hebrew or Aramaic to introduce the benching to bring the kedusha. Mishna Brurah 192:2 quotes this and writes the minhag ashkenaz was to say Zimmun in Yiddish “Rabbotei Mir Velin Benchin”. Kol Bo (Siman 25) emphasizes the group merit of the zimmun. </ref> | # Zimmun could be said in any language as the purpose is to introduce the benching orally and join the group together to praise Hashem. <ref> Zohar (Balak pg 186b) writes that it’s important to precede benching with “give us a cup to bench” in Hebrew or Aramaic to introduce the benching to bring the kedusha. Mishna Brurah 192:2 quotes this and writes the minhag ashkenaz was to say Zimmun in Yiddish “Rabbotei Mir Velin Benchin”. Kol Bo (Siman 25) emphasizes the group merit of the zimmun. </ref> | ||
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===Two who ate together=== | ===Two who ate together=== | ||
# Two who ate together can’t obligated in Zimmun and so they should say Birkat HaMazon to themselves. However, if one doesn’t know how to say Birkat HaMazon and one does, then the one who knows may say it aloud and fulfill the obligation of the one who doesn’t know as long as the one saying has intent to fulfill the obligation of the other, and the one listening has intent to fulfill his obligation. <ref>S”A 193:1 </ref> | # Two who ate together can’t obligated in Zimmun and so they should say Birkat HaMazon to themselves. However, if one doesn’t know how to say Birkat HaMazon and one does, then the one who knows may say it aloud and fulfill the obligation of the one who doesn’t know as long as the one saying has intent to fulfill the obligation of the other, and the one listening has intent to fulfill his obligation. <ref>S”A 193:1 </ref> | ||
# According to some it’s crucial that the one who is listening in order to fulfill his obligation must understand the | # According to some it’s crucial that the one who is listening in order to fulfill his obligation must understand the [[Birkat HaMazon]], while others are lenient and defend the minhag. <Ref>Mishna Brurah 193:5 </ref> | ||
==Splitting up a group== | ==Splitting up a group== | ||
# Three who ate together must do Zimmun and each one is not allowed to leave the Zimmun. However if there’s six or more in the Zimmun, the group is allowed to split into two groups of three. If there’s ten then each one isn’t allowed to leave the Zimmun as they are obligated in ZImmun with a mentioning of Hashem’s name. However, if there’s twenty the group may split into two groups of ten. <Ref>S”A 193:1 </ref> | # Three who ate together must do Zimmun and each one is not allowed to leave the Zimmun. However if there’s six or more in the Zimmun, the group is allowed to split into two groups of three. If there’s ten then each one isn’t allowed to leave the Zimmun as they are obligated in ZImmun with a mentioning of Hashem’s name. However, if there’s twenty the group may split into two groups of ten. <Ref>S”A 193:1 </ref> | ||
