Where Is It Permissible to Recite Brachot?: Difference between revisions
From Halachipedia
Where Is It Permissible to Recite Brachot? (view source)
Revision as of 19:13, 2 December 2020
, 2 December 2020Text replacement - " Biblical" to " biblical"
m (Text replacement - " Biblical" to " biblical") |
|||
| (2 intermediate revisions by the same user not shown) | |||
| Line 2: | Line 2: | ||
==Learning or Thinking Torah in Unclean Areas== | ==Learning or Thinking Torah in Unclean Areas== | ||
===In a Bathroom | ===In a Bathroom, Shower, Bathhouse=== | ||
#It is forbidden to learn Torah or recite Brachot in a bathroom.<ref>Gemara Brachot 26a, Shulchan Aruch 83:4</ref> The poskim say that this is also true with modern bathrooms.<ref>Igrot Moshe EH 1:114</ref> | #It is forbidden to learn Torah or recite Brachot in a bathroom.<ref>Gemara Brachot 26a, Shulchan Aruch 83:4</ref> The poskim say that this is also true with modern bathrooms.<ref>Igrot Moshe EH 1:114</ref> | ||
#It is permitted to recite a bracha outside a bathroom even if the door is open.<ref>Igrot Moshe EH 1:114</ref> | #It is permitted to recite a bracha outside a bathroom even if the door is open.<ref>Igrot Moshe EH 1:114</ref> | ||
#One may speak Hebrew in the bathroom, but it is a pious practice not to. <ref>Shulchan Aruch 85:2, Mishna Brurah 85:9</ref> | #One may speak Hebrew in the bathroom, but it is a pious practice not to. <ref>Shulchan Aruch 85:2, Mishna Brurah 85:9</ref> | ||
#It is forbidden to learn or think Torah in a bathhouse. Even in the changing room next to the bathing room one may not learn Torah but one may think Torah. If there's no one unclothed in the changing room at the time there is a dispute if one may recite brachot there.<ref>In the days of chazal there were three chambers of a bathhouse; the outermost room was used for rinsing and sweating, the middle one for changing and lounging, and the inner one for bathing. The gemara Shabbat 10a explains that it is forbidden to learn Torah in either the middle or inner rooms. That is codified in Shulchan Aruch 84:1. Rama adds that thinking Torah is permitted in the middle room and not the inner one. | #It is forbidden to learn or think Torah in a bathhouse. Even in the changing room next to the bathing room one may not learn Torah but one may think Torah. If there's no one unclothed in the changing room at the time there is a dispute if one may recite brachot there.<ref>In the days of chazal there were three chambers of a bathhouse; the outermost room was used for rinsing and sweating, the middle one for changing and lounging, and the inner one for bathing. The gemara Shabbat 10a explains that it is forbidden to learn Torah in either the middle or inner rooms. That is codified in Shulchan Aruch 84:1. Rama adds that thinking Torah is permitted in the middle room and not the inner one. | ||
*Is learning in the middle room permitted if no one unclothed there? Bet Yosef 45:2 implies it is permitted and Bach 84:1 says forbidden. The Mishna Brurah 84:3 cites the dispute between the Bach and Bet Yosef. Perisha 45:2, Taz 84:2 (as understood by Mishna Brurah 84:3), Shulchan Aruch Harav 84:1, and Magen Giborim S”G 84:2 are strict. Magen Avraham 45:2, Eliya Rabba 84:1, Birkei Yosef 85:10, Maharsham in Daat Torah 84:1, and Bet Yehuda OC 10 are lenient. Taharat Habayit v. 3 p. 232-3 is lenient. He writes that it seems to be a dispute between Rashi who is lenient and the Meiri.</ref> | *Is learning in the middle room permitted if no one unclothed there? Bet Yosef 45:2 implies it is permitted and Bach 84:1 says forbidden. The Mishna Brurah 84:3 cites the dispute between the Bach and Bet Yosef. Perisha 45:2, Taz 84:2 (as understood by Mishna Brurah 84:3), Shulchan Aruch Harav 84:1, and Magen Giborim S”G 84:2 are strict. Magen Avraham 45:2, Eliya Rabba 84:1, Birkei Yosef 85:10, Maharsham in Daat Torah 84:1, and Bet Yehuda OC 10 are lenient. Taharat Habayit v. 3 p. 232-3 is lenient. He writes that it seems to be a dispute between Rashi who is lenient and the Meiri.</ref> | ||
# It is permitted to hear a Torah lecture or Jewish song while in a shower if it isn't in the same room as a toilet. If it is in the same room as a toilet it is forbidden.<ref>[http://halachayomit.co.il/en/default.aspx?HalachaID=1751] based on Yabia Omer OC 5:11</ref> | |||
===In Front of Feces or Urine=== | ===In Front of Feces or Urine=== | ||
| Line 20: | Line 19: | ||
#If urine was absorbed into the ground or clothing, if there still is a moisture to the urine, one may not learn next to it unless it was diluted with a [[Reviyit]] of water.<ref>Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 5:2</ref> | #If urine was absorbed into the ground or clothing, if there still is a moisture to the urine, one may not learn next to it unless it was diluted with a [[Reviyit]] of water.<ref>Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 5:2</ref> | ||
#If there is feces on one's body, one may not involve oneself in Divrei [[Kedusha]] even if it is covered.<ref>Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 5:3</ref> | #If there is feces on one's body, one may not involve oneself in Divrei [[Kedusha]] even if it is covered.<ref>Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 5:3</ref> | ||
#If a baby soiled a diaper but they are still wearing it if you don't smell it the feces are considered covered and | #If a baby soiled a diaper but they are still wearing it if you don't smell it the feces are considered covered and some permit to learn or make brachot nearby,<ref>[http://www.yutorah.org/sidebar/lecture.cfm/891935/rabbi-hershel-schachter/berachos-56-25ab-modern-bathrooms-tzoah-libo-roeh-es-haervah-glass-akum-issur-chal-al-issur/ Rav Hershel Schachter (Brachot Shiur 56 around min 85)]</ref> while others are strict and require you to move four [[amot]] away from the smell.<ref>Rav Simcha Bunim Cohen (page 25). Shevet HaLevi 9:200:2 says that this relates to the discussion of how far one must distance themselves from a bad odor that is covered. See M.B. 79 introduction point 8 where he discusses an argument concerning if one must distance themselves four amot from where the bad odor ends or is moving to a place that it doesn't smell enough. This is a doubt in the Pri Megadim 79.</ref> | ||
# It is permitted to daven in front of a urine catheter though the tube through which the urine goes through should be covered and preferably the bag of urine should be covered as well.< | ##All agree that one does not have to check a diaper prior to reciting a bracha or learning, but if one does smell an odor, it would be prohibited.<ref>Rav Simcha Bunim Cohen (page 25). Shevet HaLevi 9:200:2</ref> | ||
#It is permitted to daven in front of a urine catheter though the tube through which the urine goes through should be covered and preferably the bag of urine should be covered as well.<ref>https://www.yeshiva.co/ask/?id=4915</ref> | |||
====In Another Room==== | ====In Another Room==== | ||
| Line 58: | Line 59: | ||
#For the purposes of learning or reciting anything of Kedusha before Ervah, in a bathroom or near feces, this includes Kriyat Shema, Tefillah, learning Torah, brachot, or anything of kedusha.<ref>Mishna Brurah 76:2 writes that it is obvious that for all purposes of saying Torah in a place of Ervah, bathroom, or feces it is equally applicable whether it is learning Torah, reciting Shema, Tefillah, or anything of Kedusha. Aruch Hashulchan 76:1 adds brachot as another example. Regarding not saying Torah in a bathroom, the Rambam (Kriyat Shema 3:4) writes that Kriyat Shema is the same as any other divrei kedusha and even thinking Torah in a bathroom is forbidden. He says the same for a place that is unclean because of feces or urine. | #For the purposes of learning or reciting anything of Kedusha before Ervah, in a bathroom or near feces, this includes Kriyat Shema, Tefillah, learning Torah, brachot, or anything of kedusha.<ref>Mishna Brurah 76:2 writes that it is obvious that for all purposes of saying Torah in a place of Ervah, bathroom, or feces it is equally applicable whether it is learning Torah, reciting Shema, Tefillah, or anything of Kedusha. Aruch Hashulchan 76:1 adds brachot as another example. Regarding not saying Torah in a bathroom, the Rambam (Kriyat Shema 3:4) writes that Kriyat Shema is the same as any other divrei kedusha and even thinking Torah in a bathroom is forbidden. He says the same for a place that is unclean because of feces or urine. | ||
*However, the Tosfot (Eruvin 64a s.v. shikor) and Rosh Eruvin 6:5 have a doubt whether reciting Brachot are treated like davening Tefillah near feces after the fact. The Ramban (Brachot 22b) clarifies that Tosfot never even considered if it is permitted to recite a bracha near feces. That is obviously forbidden. In fact, any Torah, bracha, tefillah, shema, or concept of Torah ("Inyan Shel Torah") is forbidden | *However, the Tosfot (Eruvin 64a s.v. shikor) and Rosh Eruvin 6:5 have a doubt whether reciting Brachot are treated like davening Tefillah near feces after the fact. The Ramban (Brachot 22b) clarifies that Tosfot never even considered if it is permitted to recite a bracha near feces. That is obviously forbidden. In fact, any Torah, bracha, tefillah, shema, or concept of Torah ("Inyan Shel Torah") is forbidden biblically as the Torah says "והיה מחניך קדש" and doesn't specify Shema or Tefillah, so obviously it also applies to brachot. Rather Tosfot was in doubt regarding after the fact if the bracha in a dirty counts or needs to be said again. Even on that point, the Ramban writes that it is clear that one doesn't fulfill one's obligation even after the fact and there's no distinction between brachot and any other Torah. The only distinction that is relevant is that it is forbidden to recite shema near someone who passed gas but permitted to learn Torah. The Ramban writes that this is only because learning near passed gas is only rabbinic and chazal didn't want their enactment to cause people not to learn Torah but it would be forbidden to recite brachot or say shema near the gas. He concludes with the Yerushalmi Trumot 6:1 that it is forbidden to recite brachot near ervah. The Shulchan Aruch 185:5 cites the Tosfot but the Mishna Brurah 185:7 cites the Ramban.</ref> | ||
#It is equally forbidden whether it is in Hebrew or any other language.<ref>Mishna Brurah 76:2</ref> | #It is equally forbidden whether it is in Hebrew or any other language.<ref>Mishna Brurah 76:2</ref> | ||
#One should avoid performing mitzvot in a bathroom as doing so would be disgraceful, however, if there's no other option, such as giving someone who asks for tzedaka, it is permitted.<ref>Biur Halacha 588:2 s.v. shema quotes the Mateh Efraim that one shouldn't do any mitzvot in a disgraceful place such as a bathroom or in front of feces. He explains that either it is because since one needs kavnaa for a mitzvah that is similar to think of Torah. Also, he says it is disgraceful to do mitzvot in a dirty a place. Dirshu 76:1 quotes Halichot Shlomo (Tefillah Dvar Halacha 2:36) who writes that this is only initially that one shouldn't do mitzvot in such a place but if one is going to miss the opportunity otherwise one can do the mitzvot there. Also, they quote Rav Chaim Kanievsky (Derech Emunah Maaser 9:51) that it only applies to a obligatory mitzvah but a mitzvah that is optional can be done in a bathroom. Rav Nevinsal (on Biur Halacha 1:1) writes that shouldn't think about the six mitzvot temidiyot in the bathroom since it is disgraceful. (See also Bikkurei Yakov 644:1 who writes that performing any mitzvah requires Birchat Hatorah which is similar to the first explanation of the Biur Halacha.) </ref> | #One should avoid performing mitzvot in a bathroom as doing so would be disgraceful, however, if there's no other option, such as giving someone who asks for tzedaka, it is permitted.<ref>Biur Halacha 588:2 s.v. shema quotes the Mateh Efraim that one shouldn't do any mitzvot in a disgraceful place such as a bathroom or in front of feces. He explains that either it is because since one needs kavnaa for a mitzvah that is similar to think of Torah. Also, he says it is disgraceful to do mitzvot in a dirty a place. Dirshu 76:1 quotes Halichot Shlomo (Tefillah Dvar Halacha 2:36) who writes that this is only initially that one shouldn't do mitzvot in such a place but if one is going to miss the opportunity otherwise one can do the mitzvot there. Also, they quote Rav Chaim Kanievsky (Derech Emunah Maaser 9:51) that it only applies to a obligatory mitzvah but a mitzvah that is optional can be done in a bathroom. Rav Nevinsal (on Biur Halacha 1:1) writes that shouldn't think about the six mitzvot temidiyot in the bathroom since it is disgraceful. (See also Bikkurei Yakov 644:1 who writes that performing any mitzvah requires Birchat Hatorah which is similar to the first explanation of the Biur Halacha.) </ref> | ||
