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* Is learning in the middle room permitted if no one unclothed there? Bet Yosef 45:2 implies it is permitted and Bach 84:1 says forbidden. The Mishna Brurah 84:3 cites the dispute between the Bach and Bet Yosef. Perisha 45:2, Taz 84:2 (as understood by Mishna Brurah 84:3), Shulchan Aruch Harav 84:1, and Magen Giborim S”G 84:2 are strict. Magen Avraham 45:2, Eliya Rabba 84:1, Birkei Yosef 85:10, Maharsham in Daat Torah 84:1, and Bet Yehuda OC 10 are lenient. Taharat Habayit v. 3 p. 232-3 is lenient. He writes that it seems to be a dispute between Rashi who is lenient and the Meiri.</ref> | * Is learning in the middle room permitted if no one unclothed there? Bet Yosef 45:2 implies it is permitted and Bach 84:1 says forbidden. The Mishna Brurah 84:3 cites the dispute between the Bach and Bet Yosef. Perisha 45:2, Taz 84:2 (as understood by Mishna Brurah 84:3), Shulchan Aruch Harav 84:1, and Magen Giborim S”G 84:2 are strict. Magen Avraham 45:2, Eliya Rabba 84:1, Birkei Yosef 85:10, Maharsham in Daat Torah 84:1, and Bet Yehuda OC 10 are lenient. Taharat Habayit v. 3 p. 232-3 is lenient. He writes that it seems to be a dispute between Rashi who is lenient and the Meiri.</ref> | ||
===Definition of Divrei Kedusha=== | ===Definition of Divrei Kedusha=== | ||
# For the purposes of learning or reciting anything of Kedusha before Ervah, in a bathroom or near feces, this includes Kriyat Shema, Tefillah, learning Torah, brachot, or anything of kedusha.<ref>Mishna Brurah 76:2 writes that it is obvious that for all purposes of saying Torah in a place of Ervah, bathroom, or feces it is equally applicable whether it is learning Torah, reciting Shema, Tefillah, or anything of Kedusha. Aruch Hashulchan 76:1 adds brachot as another example. Regarding not saying Torah in a bathroom, the Rambam (Kriyat Shema 3:4) writes that Kriyat Shema is the same as any other divrei kedusha and even thinking Torah in a bathroom is forbidden. He says the same for a place that is unclean because of feces or urine. | |||
* However, the Tosfot (Eruvin 64a s.v. shikor) and Rosh Eruvin 6:5 have a doubt whether reciting Brachot are treated like davening Tefillah near feces after the fact. The Ramban (Brachot 22b) clarifies that Tosfot never even considered if it is permitted to recite a bracha near feces. That is obviously forbidden. In fact, any Torah, bracha, tefillah, shema, or concept of Torah ("Inyan Shel Torah") is forbidden Biblically as the Torah says "והיה מחניך קדש" and doesn't specify Shema or Tefillah, so obviously it also applies to brachot. Rather Tosfot was in doubt regarding after the fact if the bracha in a dirty counts or needs to be said again. Even on that point, the Ramban writes that it is clear that one doesn't fulfill one's obligation even after the fact and there's no distinction between brachot and any other Torah. The only distinction that is relevant is that it is forbidden to recite shema near someone who passed gas but permitted to learn Torah. The Ramban writes that this is only because learning near passed gas is only rabbinic and chazal didn't want their enactment to cause people not to learn Torah but it would be forbidden to recite brachot or say shema near the gas. He concludes with the Yerushalmi Trumot 6:1 that it is forbidden to recite brachot near ervah. The Shulchan Aruch 185:5 cites the Tosfot but the Mishna Brurah 185:7 cites the Ramban.</ref> | |||
# It is equally forbidden whether it is in Hebrew or any other language.<ref>Mishna Burrah 76:2</ref> | |||
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