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* Mishna Brurah 677:3 rules that in order to satisfy the opinion of the Mahariv it’s better for a guest to light by himself than to contribute a [[Measurements#Prutah|prutah]] to the host. This is also the opinion of the Nitei Gavriel ([[Chanukah]] 12:6). However, the Kaf HaChaim 677:11 comments that the suspicion introduced by the Mahariv doesn’t apply to Sephardim who don’t have the minhag that everyone in the house lights.
* Mishna Brurah 677:3 rules that in order to satisfy the opinion of the Mahariv it’s better for a guest to light by himself than to contribute a [[Measurements#Prutah|prutah]] to the host. This is also the opinion of the Nitei Gavriel ([[Chanukah]] 12:6). However, the Kaf HaChaim 677:11 comments that the suspicion introduced by the Mahariv doesn’t apply to Sephardim who don’t have the minhag that everyone in the house lights.
* Mishna Brurah 677:16 presents a minority opinion in the achronim that if one's wife already lit at home, he shouldn’t recite a bracha. Therefore, he says one should listen to someone else recite the [[brachot]] and then light. </ref>
* Mishna Brurah 677:16 presents a minority opinion in the achronim that if one's wife already lit at home, he shouldn’t recite a bracha. Therefore, he says one should listen to someone else recite the [[brachot]] and then light. </ref>
# Some say that one may not light at a person’s house unless he stays there for all eight days of [[Chanukah]]. If one stays there for less time, he should give the host a [[prutah]] to fulfill his obligation. However, some say that as long as one stays there one ‘day’ one may light there. <Ref> Beiur Halacha 677:1 s.v. BeMakom quotes the Pri [[Chadash]] 677:1 who says a guest and his whole family who stay at someone else’s home for all eight days of [[Chanukah]] should light at the place they are staying. Rabbi Hershel Schachter (oral communication, Halachipedia Article 5772 #4, B'ikvei Hatzon chapter 20 footnote 2) holds one must remain there all eight days in order to have some connection to that house to allow him to light there. When one stays for a shorter period, one should fulfill his obligation by giving a [[prutah]] to the host. However, Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach (Halichot Shlomo 14:18, 19) rules that if a guest stays at a person’s house for one day, he may light at that house. For example, if a person sleeps and eats at a house for [[Shabbat]] he can light there Friday afternoon. Chazon Ish (Shevut Yitzchak pg 110), Rav Vosner (Kovetz MeBet Levi Kislev 5757), Rav Shternbuch (Teshuvot V’Hanhagot 1:391), and Rav Navinsal (BYitzchak Yikra 677 Biur Halacha Bmakom) agree. </ref>
# Some say that one may not light at a person’s house unless he stays there for all eight days of [[Chanukah]]. If one stays there for less time, he should give the host a [[prutah]] to fulfill his obligation. However, some say that as long as one stays there one ‘day’ one may light there. <Ref> Beiur Halacha 677:1 s.v. BeMakom quotes the Pri [[Chadash]] 677:1 who says a guest and his whole family who stay at someone else’s home for all eight days of [[Chanukah]] should light at the place they are staying. Rabbi Hershel Schachter (oral communication, Halachipedia Article 5772 #4, B'ikvei Hatzon chapter 20 footnote 2) holds one must remain there all eight days in order to have some connection to that house to allow him to light there. When one stays for a shorter period, one should fulfill his obligation by giving a [[prutah]] to the host. However, Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach (Halichot Shlomo 14:18, 19) rules that if a guest stays at a person’s house for one day, he may light at that house. For example, if a person sleeps and eats at a house for [[Shabbat]] he can light there Friday afternoon. Chazon Ish (Shevut Yitzchak pg 110), Rav Vosner (Kovetz MeBet Levi Kislev 5757), Rav Shternbuch (Teshuvot V’Hanhagot 1:391), and Rav Navinsal (BYitzchak Yikra 677 Biur Halacha Bmakom) agree. This is also the opinion of Halachos of Chanukah by Rabbi Eider p. 38.</ref>


==According to Sephardim==
==According to Sephardim==
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==Staying Over for Shabbat==
==Staying Over for Shabbat==
# If a person (and his family if he's married) is staying over at his parents (or in-laws or the like) for Shabbat, according to most poskim, he can light there on Friday afternoon.<ref> Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach (Halichot Shlomo 14:18, 19) rules that if a guest stays at a person’s house for one day, he may light at that house. For example, if a person sleeps and eats at a house for [[Shabbat]] he can light there Friday afternoon. Chazon Ish (Shevut Yitzchak pg 110), Rav Vosner (Kovetz MeBet Levi Kislev 5757), Rav Shternbuch (Teshuvot V’Hanhagot 1:391), and Rav Navinsal (BYitzchak Yikra 677 Biur Halacha Bmakom) agree.</ref> According to some poskim he should join with the lighting of his parents by giving them a prutah.<ref>Rabbi Hershel Schachter (oral communication, Halachipedia Article 5772 #4, B'ikvei Hatzon chapter 20 footnote 2) holds one must remain there all eight days in order to have some connection to that house to allow him to light there. When one stays for a shorter period, one should fulfill his obligation by giving a [[prutah]] to the host.</ref> According to Sephardim if he is staying at his in-laws or parents he should fulfill his obligation with the lighting of his parents or in-laws and not light himself. It is preferable to give them a prutah to join with them. <ref>Torat Hamoadim 3:11, Yalkut Yosef 677:10 (English edition)</ref>
# If a person (and his family if he's married) is staying over at his parents (or in-laws or the like) for Shabbat, according to most poskim, he can light there on Friday afternoon.<ref> Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach (Halichot Shlomo 14:18, 19) rules that if a guest stays at a person’s house for one day, he may light at that house. For example, if a person sleeps and eats at a house for [[Shabbat]] he can light there Friday afternoon. Chazon Ish (Shevut Yitzchak pg 110), Rav Vosner (Kovetz MeBet Levi Kislev 5757), Rav Shternbuch (Teshuvot V’Hanhagot 1:391), and Rav Navinsal (BYitzchak Yikra 677 Biur Halacha Bmakom) agree.</ref> According to some poskim he should join with the lighting of his parents by giving them a prutah.<ref>Rabbi Hershel Schachter (oral communication, Halachipedia Article 5772 #4, B'ikvei Hatzon chapter 20 footnote 2) holds one must remain there all eight days in order to have some connection to that house to allow him to light there. When one stays for a shorter period, one should fulfill his obligation by giving a [[prutah]] to the host.</ref> According to Sephardim if he is staying at his in-laws or parents he should fulfill his obligation with the lighting of his parents or in-laws and not light himself. It is preferable to give them a prutah to join with them. <ref>Torat Hamoadim 3:11, Yalkut Yosef 677:10 (English edition). Yalkut Yosef (5773 edition, 677:10-11) writes that someone staying at their parents or in-laws should not light themselves. Even though some say that if they have their own room they can light themselves, that isn't the case nowadays. The only reason to require lighting if someone has a private room is because of the concern that others will suspect him of not lighting candles. Nowadays we don't light for that concern because people light inside. Even if a person wanted to light in their private room or have intention not to fulfill their mitzvah with the lighting of their parents or in-laws they may not light with a bracha.</ref>
# If a person was at his parents or the like for Shabbat he can light there or join with his parents' lighting on Motzei Shabbat as long as he stays there for 30 minutes after the candles are lit. <ref>Rav Shternbuch (Sh"t Teshuvot Vihanhagot 1:394) adds that if on Motzaei [[Shabbat]] one will not arrive home before “tichle regel” one can even light in the house that one was at for Shabbat, but should try to stay there for a half hour. Rav Nevinsal (BYitzchak Yikra 677 Biur Halacha Bmakom) quoting Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach held that on Motzei Shabbat one can't light in the house one was at for Shabbat unless one is going to stay there for a half hour.</ref> Sephardic poskim hold that he should light when he gets back home.<ref>Chazon Ovadia Chanuka p. 155, Yalkut Yosef 677:11 (English edition), Or Letzion 4:47:5</ref>
# If a person was at his parents or the like for Shabbat he can light there or join with his parents' lighting on Motzei Shabbat as long as he stays there for 30 minutes after the candles are lit. <ref>Rav Shternbuch (Sh"t Teshuvot Vihanhagot 1:394) adds that if on Motzaei [[Shabbat]] one will not arrive home before “tichle regel” one can even light in the house that one was at for Shabbat, but should try to stay there for a half hour. Rav Nevinsal (BYitzchak Yikra 677 Biur Halacha Bmakom) quoting Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach held that on Motzei Shabbat one can't light in the house one was at for Shabbat unless one is going to stay there for a half hour.</ref> Sephardic poskim hold that he should light when he gets back home.<ref>Chazon Ovadia Chanuka p. 155, Yalkut Yosef 677:11 (English edition), Or Letzion 4:47:5</ref>
# If a person is staying home for Shabbat and is just eating the Friday night meal somewhere else he should light at home before Shabbat (after Plag Mincha) so that the candles stay lit for a half hour after Tzet Hakochavim.<Ref> Yalkut Yosef 672:11 </ref>
# If a person is staying home for Shabbat and is just eating the Friday night meal somewhere else he should light at home before Shabbat (after Plag Mincha) so that the candles stay lit for a half hour after Tzet Hakochavim.<Ref> Yalkut Yosef 672:11 </ref>
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