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==Times for Shacharit== | ==Times for Shacharit== | ||
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# | # The ideal mitzvah is to start praying [[Shmoneh Esrei]] of [[Shacharit]] at [[Netz HaChama]] (sunrise). The practice of those who say Shemona Esrei of Shacharit at Netz is called ''Vatikin''.<ref> Gemara [[Brachot]] 26a writes the ideal time to pray [[Shacharit]] is at [[HaNetz HaChama]] and that was the practice of the [[Vatikin]] (those who fulfill the מצות early and in the proper time). This is codified by the Rambam ([[Tefillah]] 3:1), Rosh ([[Brachot]] 4:1), Tur and Shulchan Aruch 89:1 </ref> Netz today in your location is <span id="netz"></span>. | ||
# If a person can either daven at Netz without a minyan or later with a minyan, according to Ashkenazim one may daven at Netz if one regularly davens at Netz.<ref>Biur Halacha 58 s.v. umitzvah</ref> According to Sephardim one should daven with a minyan later unless one will pray with kavana.<ref>Yalkut Yosef 89:19</ref> | # If a person can either daven at Netz without a minyan or later with a minyan, according to Ashkenazim one may daven at Netz if one regularly davens at Netz.<ref>Biur Halacha 58 s.v. umitzvah</ref> According to Sephardim one should daven with a minyan later unless one will pray with kavana.<ref>Yalkut Yosef 89:19</ref> | ||
===After Alot Hashachar=== | ===After Alot Hashachar=== | ||
===Netz=== | ===Netz=== | ||
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===Latest Time for Mincha=== | ===Latest Time for Mincha=== | ||
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# Even though certainly one should pray mincha before sunset, if the only options are to either pray mincha before sunset himself or with a minyan after sunset, Ashkenazim hold that one should pray oneself on time before sunset, while Sephardim hold that one can wait to pray with the minyan as long as it is within 13.5 minutes after sunset.<ref> Mishna Brurah 233:14 writes that it is better to pray Mincha before shkiyah without a minyan than to pray with a minyan after shkiyah. Igrot Moshe 1:24 writes that one shouldn't pray mincha after sunset. However, Chacham Ben Zion Abba Shaul (cited in Ishei Yisroel page 296) and Chacham Ovadia Yosef (Yechave Daat 5:22) say that it is preferable to pray with a minyan even if the minyan as long as they are praying within the first thirteen and a half minutes after sunset.</ref> | # Even though certainly one should pray mincha before sunset, if the only options are to either pray mincha before sunset himself or with a minyan after sunset, Ashkenazim hold that one should pray oneself on time before sunset, while Sephardim hold that one can wait to pray with the minyan as long as it is within 13.5 minutes after sunset.<ref> Mishna Brurah 233:14 writes that it is better to pray Mincha before shkiyah without a minyan than to pray with a minyan after shkiyah. Igrot Moshe 1:24 writes that one shouldn't pray mincha after sunset. However, Chacham Ben Zion Abba Shaul (cited in Ishei Yisroel page 296) and Chacham Ovadia Yosef (Yechave Daat 5:22) say that it is preferable to pray with a minyan even if the minyan as long as they are praying within the first thirteen and a half minutes after sunset. Rabbi Meir Mazuz in Bayit Neeman 1:25 p. 146 s.v. miyhu agrees even though we don't accept Rabbeinu Tam since this case is an minhag to pray during Ben Hashemashot.</ref> | ||
# Some poskim hold that one can start Mincha before sunset even if one knows that one will not finish until after sunset.<ref>Yabia Omer OC 7:34</ref> | # Some poskim hold that one can start Mincha before sunset even if one knows that one will not finish until after sunset.<ref>Yabia Omer OC 7:34</ref> | ||
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# Some say that even Sephardim allow praying Arvit early after Plag Hamincha of the Gra,<ref>[https://www.torahanytime.com/#/lectures?v=60107 Rav Yitzchak Yosef (Motzei Shabbat Emor 5778 min 28)] said that a since the minhag is that we follow the Gra for zmanim, the minhag is to pray mincha before Plag of the Gra and arvit after Plag of the Gra, even though according to Rabbenu Tam it is a bracha levatala since it is day.</ref> while others argue that Sephardim must follow a Plag that is calculated by 1.25 hours before Tzet Hakochavim even if the Tzet Hakochavim is that of the Geonim, 13.5 minutes after Shekiya.<ref>Yalkut Yosef (Shabbat v. 1 p. 168 263 fnt. 62; 235:1; 267:12), Ben Ish Chai Vayahakel n. 8. In all of those places the calculation of Plag is made from Tzet according to the Geonim. Thereby, the Sephardi Plag Mincha is generally between 10 and 20 minutes after the Gra plag. | # Some say that even Sephardim allow praying Arvit early after Plag Hamincha of the Gra,<ref>[https://www.torahanytime.com/#/lectures?v=60107 Rav Yitzchak Yosef (Motzei Shabbat Emor 5778 min 28)] said that a since the minhag is that we follow the Gra for zmanim, the minhag is to pray mincha before Plag of the Gra and arvit after Plag of the Gra, even though according to Rabbenu Tam it is a bracha levatala since it is day.</ref> while others argue that Sephardim must follow a Plag that is calculated by 1.25 hours before Tzet Hakochavim even if the Tzet Hakochavim is that of the Geonim, 13.5 minutes after Shekiya.<ref>Yalkut Yosef (Shabbat v. 1 p. 168 263 fnt. 62; 235:1; 267:12), Ben Ish Chai Vayahakel n. 8. In all of those places the calculation of Plag is made from Tzet according to the Geonim. Thereby, the Sephardi Plag Mincha is generally between 10 and 20 minutes after the Gra plag. | ||
*See also [https://www.torahanytime.com/#/lectures?v=81670 Rav Yitzchak Yosef (Motzei Shabbat Pesach 5779 min 37)] who said that the schedules which print plag mincha 1.25 hours before shekiya (Gra) are causing Sephardim to say brachot levatalot when they daven arvit right after plag. Rather they need to daven after plag which is 1.25 hours before tzet. Tzet is only 20 minutes (13.5 zmaniyot minutes) so our plag is less than 20 minutes after their plag but starting arvit before then is a bracha levatala for Sephardim. They should print the plag according to Sephardim. | *See also [https://www.torahanytime.com/#/lectures?v=81670 Rav Yitzchak Yosef (Motzei Shabbat Pesach 5779 min 37)] who said that the schedules which print plag mincha 1.25 hours before shekiya (Gra) are causing Sephardim to say brachot levatalot when they daven arvit right after plag. Rather they need to daven after plag which is 1.25 hours before tzet. Tzet is only 20 minutes (13.5 zmaniyot minutes) so our plag is less than 20 minutes after their plag but starting arvit before then is a bracha levatala for Sephardim. They should print the plag according to Sephardim. | ||
*See also [https://www.torahanytime.com/#/lectures?v=55391 Rav Yitzchak Yosef (Motzei Shabbat Bo 5778 min 25)] who said that it is a bracha levatala to daven Arvit after Plag of the Gra according to Rabbenu Tam and we are strict for Rabbenu Tam.</ref>Thereby, the Sephardi Plag Mincha is generally between 10 and 20 minutes after the Gra plag. See the [https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.calj.android CalJ App] for calculation of this zman. | *See also [https://www.torahanytime.com/#/lectures?v=55391 Rav Yitzchak Yosef (Motzei Shabbat Bo 5778 min 25)] who said that it is a bracha levatala to daven Arvit after Plag of the Gra according to Rabbenu Tam and we are strict for Rabbenu Tam.</ref> Thereby, the Sephardi Plag Mincha is generally between 10 and 20 minutes after the Gra plag. See the [https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.calj.android CalJ App] for calculation of this zman. | ||
===Early Maariv on Friday Night=== | ===Early Maariv on Friday Night=== | ||
