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* The Rosh (Brachot 1:1) quotes the Rav Hai Goan who says that if one is in a situation where one could either pray with a [[minyan]] before [[Tzet HaKochavim]] or pray by oneself later one should pray with the [[minyan]] early but not say Shema with the [[Brachot]] until later. Rav Hai Goan also suggests that one could pray with the congregation as a voluntary [[prayer]] and then pray again oneself with Shema and [[Shmoneh Esrei]]. This is also quoted by the Rabbenu Yonah (Brachot 1b s.v. VeRabbenu Hai), Rashba (Brachot 2a s.v. VeNishal), and Tur 235:1. | * The Rosh (Brachot 1:1) quotes the Rav Hai Goan who says that if one is in a situation where one could either pray with a [[minyan]] before [[Tzet HaKochavim]] or pray by oneself later one should pray with the [[minyan]] early but not say Shema with the [[Brachot]] until later. Rav Hai Goan also suggests that one could pray with the congregation as a voluntary [[prayer]] and then pray again oneself with Shema and [[Shmoneh Esrei]]. This is also quoted by the Rabbenu Yonah (Brachot 1b s.v. VeRabbenu Hai), Rashba (Brachot 2a s.v. VeNishal), and Tur 235:1. | ||
* Rabbenu Yonah gives an alternative for someone in that situation; say [[Brachot]] of Shema, Shema with intent not to fulfill one’s obligation but rather just as words of Torah, and then [[Shmoneh Esrei]] with the [[minyan]] and after [[Tzet HaKochavim]] one should repeat Shema with the intent of fulfilling one's obligation. | * Rabbenu Yonah gives an alternative for someone in that situation; say [[Brachot]] of Shema, Shema with intent not to fulfill one’s obligation but rather just as words of Torah, and then [[Shmoneh Esrei]] with the [[minyan]] and after [[Tzet HaKochavim]] one should repeat Shema with the intent of fulfilling one's obligation. | ||
* The Bet Yosef 235:1 concludes that one should make sure to repeat Shema after [[Tzet HaKochavim]] but one may follow the above suggestions (of Rav Hai and Rabbenu Yonah). The Shulchan Aruch 235:1 writes like the Rabbenu Yonah that if one is praying with a congregation earlier than [[Tzet HaKochavim]] one should say Shema with the [[Brachot]] and [[Shmoneh Esrei]] and then repeat Shema at [[Tzet HaKochavim]]. | * The Bet Yosef 235:1 concludes that one should make sure to repeat Shema after [[Tzet HaKochavim]] but one may follow the above suggestions (of Rav Hai and Rabbenu Yonah). Mishna Brurah 235:12 and Igrot Moshe 2:60 write that one can follow either Rav Hai or Rabbenu Yonah. The Shulchan Aruch 235:1 writes like the Rabbenu Yonah that if one is praying with a congregation earlier than [[Tzet HaKochavim]] one should say Shema with the [[Brachot]] and [[Shmoneh Esrei]] and then repeat Shema at [[Tzet HaKochavim]]. | ||
* The Mishna Brurah 235:9 writes like the Rabbenu Yonah that when saying Shema early one should not have intent to be fulfilling one’s obligation until [[Tzet HaKochavim]]. The Mishna Brurah 235:11 writes that it is a dispute whether one must repeat the third paragraph of Shema. </ref> | * The Mishna Brurah 235:9 writes like the Rabbenu Yonah that when saying Shema early one should not have intent to be fulfilling one’s obligation until [[Tzet HaKochavim]]. The Mishna Brurah 235:11 writes that it is a dispute whether one must repeat the third paragraph of Shema. Igrot Moshe 2:60 writes that one should repeat all three paragraphs. | ||
# If the only option is to daven at a minyan that is praying Arvit after immediately after Shekiya before Tzet Hakochavim and there's no later minyan one should pray with the minyan rather than daven later without a minyan.<ref>Rav Moshe Feinstein in Igrot Moshe OC 2:60 writes that in such a case one should certainly daven with a minyan and either the opinion of Rabbenu Yonah to daven Brachot Kriyat Shema with the congregation or Rav Hai Goan to skip them are acceptable.</ref> | * Igrot Moshe OC 2:60 explains that the reason that the Rabbenu Yonah and Mishna Brurah wrote not to have intent to fulfill one's obligation of kriyat Shema is because of a concern of [[Baal Tosif]]. If a person were to say Shema at the wrong time with intent that one should fulfill one's obligation it is like one is adding on to the time of the mitzvah similar to sleeping in the sukkah on the eighth day of sukkah with intent to add to sukkot (Rosh Hashana 28b). However, the Shulchan Aruch doesn't quote that it is necessary to have such an intent since the minhag is not to have intent to fulfill the mitzvah of Shema then (like Rashi Eruvin 96a s.v. v'od). </ref> | ||
# If the only option is to daven at a minyan that is praying Arvit after immediately after Shekiya before Tzet Hakochavim and there's no later minyan one should pray with the minyan rather than daven later without a minyan.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 235:1, Mishna Brurah 235:12. Rav Moshe Feinstein in Igrot Moshe OC 2:60 writes that in such a case one should certainly daven with a minyan and either the opinion of Rabbenu Yonah to daven Brachot Kriyat Shema with the congregation or Rav Hai Goan to skip them are acceptable.</ref> | |||
===Ideal Time for Arvit (Tzet)=== | ===Ideal Time for Arvit (Tzet)=== | ||
# One should make sure to say [[Kriyat Shema]] after [[Tzet HaKochavim]].<ref>Mishna Brachot 2a, Shulchan Aruch OC 235:1, Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 70:1</ref> | # One should make sure to say [[Kriyat Shema]] after [[Tzet HaKochavim]].<ref>Mishna Brachot 2a, Shulchan Aruch OC 235:1, Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 70:1</ref> | ||
