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# See [[Taking a cruise over Shabbat]] | # See [[Taking a cruise over Shabbat]] | ||
==Electric Subway and Train== | ==Electric Subway and Train== | ||
# It is forbidden to travel in any train or subway which will make scheduled stops whether it's a intercity or within the city train.<ref>Chatom Sofer 6:97, Biur Halacha 404:1, Yalkut Yosef (vol 1, pg 55), VaDaber Davar (Rabbi Shmuel Pinchasi, 1:21), Sh"t Tzitz Eliezer 1:21. | # It is forbidden to travel in any train or subway which will make scheduled stops whether it's a intercity or within the city train. One <ref>Chatom Sofer 6:97, Biur Halacha 404:1, Yalkut Yosef (vol 1, pg 55), VaDaber Davar (Rabbi Shmuel Pinchasi, 1:21), Sh"t Tzitz Eliezer 1:21. | ||
* Chatom Sofer writes that going on a train beyond the techum is forbidden since the bottom of the train is within 10 tefachim of the ground, so it isn't considered above 10 tefachim. That is based on Raavan, Ritva, Bet Yosef, and Magen Avraham who hold that going in a wagon beyond techum is forbidden even if he's sitting above 10 tefachim. However, even according to Yereyim that since he's moving and he's above 10 tefachim he isn't violating techum, he cannot rely on that to go beyond 12 mil which according to many poskim is deoritta. Also, this is only for getting on before Shabbat and going beyond the techum on Shabbat. But getting on Shabbat is forbidden because Rashba holds that there's techum above 10 tefachim since he already has a techum when Shabbat started. | * Chatom Sofer writes that going on a train beyond the techum is forbidden since the bottom of the train is within 10 tefachim of the ground, so it isn't considered above 10 tefachim. That is based on Raavan, Ritva, Bet Yosef, and Magen Avraham who hold that going in a wagon beyond techum is forbidden even if he's sitting above 10 tefachim. However, even according to Yereyim that since he's moving and he's above 10 tefachim he isn't violating techum, he cannot rely on that to go beyond 12 mil which according to many poskim is deoritta. Also, this is only for getting on before Shabbat and going beyond the techum on Shabbat. But getting on Shabbat is forbidden because Rashba holds that there's techum above 10 tefachim since he already has a techum when Shabbat started. | ||
* Besides techum, Chatom Sofer writes that going on a train on Shabbat is a biblical violation of Shabbaton, and if it for business it is also a rabbinic prohibition of mimso chefsacha.</ref> | * Besides techum, Chatom Sofer writes that going on a train on Shabbat is a biblical violation of Shabbaton, and if it for business it is also a rabbinic prohibition of mimso chefsacha. | ||
# If one needs to travel for a mitzvah (such as a doctor to the hospital, or a Mohel to a Brit) it is permissible to take an electric subway, where the driver is non-Jewish, majority of the passengers are non-Jewish, and it only travels within the city, as long as one pays before [[Shabbat]] and is let on without giving money or a card. Additionally, as much as possible a person should do this in private.<Ref> Chazon Ovadyah ( | Tzitz Eliezer 1:21 forbids riding on a train or even intracity subways which do not go beyond the techum. His reasons are: 1) It is forbidden to go beyond the techum. 2) There is a concern that he won't realize and go beyond the techum. 3) Since he's moving he can't rest properly and this violates Shabbaton. 4) Since he is renting his seat and a non-Jew is driving it appears as though he asked the non-Jew to drive the train (see Rama 246:1). 5) Going on an intracity train is an issue of public display of melacha (avsha milta). 6) Going on a train is an activity that is designated for the weekday (uvda d'chol). </ref> | ||
# If one needs to travel for a mitzvah (such as a doctor to the hospital, or a Mohel to a Brit) it is permissible to take an electric subway, where the driver is non-Jewish, majority of the passengers are non-Jewish, and it only travels within the city, as long as one pays before [[Shabbat]] and is let on without giving money or a card. Additionally, as much as possible a person should do this in private.<Ref> Chazon Ovadyah (Shabbat vol 1 pg 130) </ref> | |||
==Airplane== | ==Airplane== | ||
