Transferring Taste: Difference between revisions
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→Pressure of a Knife (Duchka Dsakina)
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! Knives | ! Knives | ||
! Used | ! Used Within 24 Hours | ||
! What Was Cut | ! What Was Cut | ||
! Was | ! Was The Knife Clean | ||
! | ! How Much Is Affected | ||
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| Hot Kli Rishon | | Hot Kli Rishon | ||
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| style="background-color:#0FF;" | Not Dvar Charif | | style="background-color:#0FF;" | Not Dvar Charif | ||
| style="background-color:#DD7E6B;" | Either | | style="background-color:#DD7E6B;" | Either | ||
| style="background-color:#F00;" | | | style="background-color:#F00;" | Entire Piece<ref>Shulchan Aruch Y.D. 94:7. Shach 94:27 has two approaches as to why a dairy knife can forbid a piece of meat completely if it is simply like dry heat which can at most infuse taste up to a Etzbah. He answers that the pressure of the knife combines with the heat to infuse taste throughout the piece. Alternatively, we're assuming that the knife is dirty and that fatty residue can be infused throughout the meat. Rabbi Akiva Eiger 94:7 points out that the [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=8922&st=&pgnum=259 Rashba Torat Habayit 34a] holds that the halacha of cutting with a knife in a kli rishon is like using a knife to cut a cold dvar charif.</ref> | ||
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| Hot Kli Rishon | | Hot Kli Rishon | ||
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| style="background-color:#D0E0E3;" | Onion ([[Dvar Charif]]) | | style="background-color:#D0E0E3;" | Onion ([[Dvar Charif]]) | ||
| style="background-color:#DD7E6B;" | Either | | style="background-color:#DD7E6B;" | Either | ||
| style="background-color:#FF0;" | Up to 2cm<ref>Shulchan Aruch Y.D. 96:1</ref> | | style="background-color:#FF0;" | Up to 2cm/Entire Piece<ref>Shulchan Aruch Y.D. 96:1 quotes one opinion who says that even if the knife isn't Ben Yomo and is clean still it has an effect of taste up to a netila. The Rama cites another opinion that dvar charif in fact effects the food completely and we're strict for the opinion initially. See [[Dvar Charif]] for all of the opinions.</ref> | ||
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| Cold | | Cold | ||
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| style="background-color:#76A5AF;" | Turnip (hard) | | style="background-color:#76A5AF;" | Turnip (hard) | ||
| style="background-color:#DD7E6B;" | Either | | style="background-color:#DD7E6B;" | Either | ||
| style="background-color:#0F0;" | Wash<ref>Shulchan Aruch Y.D. 96:5</ref> | | style="background-color:#0F0;" | Wash<ref>Shulchan Aruch Y.D. 96:5. Horah Brurah 96:49 writes that if the knife were clean it wouldn't even need to be washed. Madanei Hashulchan 96:76 implies otherwise. See also Badei Hashulchan 96:70.</ref> | ||
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| style="background-color:#76A5AF;" | Cucumber (soft) | | style="background-color:#76A5AF;" | Cucumber (soft) | ||
| style="background-color:#DD7E6B;" | Either | | style="background-color:#DD7E6B;" | Either | ||
| style="background-color:#FF0;" | Scrape<ref>Shulchan Aruch Y.D. 96:5</ref> | | style="background-color:#FF0;" | Scrape<ref>Shulchan Aruch Y.D. 96:5. Shach 96:21 explains that washing off the cucumber doesn't work since it is soft and moist and the fat upon it doesn't come off by washing it. Badei Hashulchan 96:69 cites another reason but sides with the Shach. Shach also writes that even if the knife is dirty scrape off a layer to clean the cucumber is sufficient. Badei Hashulchan 96:70 agrees and isn't certain if the knife is clean but there wasn't neytza, sticking the knife into the ground, whether the cucumber needs to be scraped or not. Perhaps even for a clean knife we're concerned that there's a little residue left on it.</ref> | ||
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# If a cold knife is used to cut a non-sharp food there's no transfer of taste between the food and the knife.<Ref>Shulchan Aruch YD 96:5</ref> | # If a cold knife is used to cut a non-sharp food there's no transfer of taste between the food and the knife.<Ref>Shulchan Aruch YD 96:5</ref> | ||
