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#If Tisha BeAv falls out on [[Shabbat]] and is pushed off to Sunday or if Tisha BeAv falls out on Sunday, the bracha of Boreh Meorei HaEsh upon a fire is made on [[Motzei Shabbat]] before the reading of Eicha (while Boreh Mineh/Isbeh/Atzeh Besamim is omitted<ref>Yalkut Yosef, Kitzur S"A, Volume 2, 556:6.</ref>), however, the bracha of [[Havdalah]] on a cup of wine is delayed until after Tisha BeAv, Sunday night. <ref>Shulchan Aruch 556:1. Mishna Brurah 556:3 adds that an adult can drink this wine. Yalkut Yosef, Kitzur S"A, Volume 2, 556:8, Yabia Omer, Volume 6, 48:13. </ref> | #If Tisha BeAv falls out on [[Shabbat]] and is pushed off to Sunday or if Tisha BeAv falls out on Sunday, the bracha of Boreh Meorei HaEsh upon a fire is made on [[Motzei Shabbat]] before the reading of Eicha (while Boreh Mineh/Isbeh/Atzeh Besamim is omitted<ref>Yalkut Yosef, Kitzur S"A, Volume 2, 556:6.</ref>), however, the bracha of [[Havdalah]] on a cup of wine is delayed until after Tisha BeAv, Sunday night. <ref>Shulchan Aruch 556:1. Mishna Brurah 556:3 adds that an adult can drink this wine. Yalkut Yosef, Kitzur S"A, Volume 2, 556:8, Yabia Omer, Volume 6, 48:13. </ref> | ||
#An adult who is exempt from fasting should recite [[Havdalah]] on [[Motzei Shabbat]] before eating.<ref>[http://www.dailyhalacha.com/displayRead.asp?readID=2361 Rabbi Mansour on Dailyhalacha.com] quoting Yechave Daat 3:40, Chazon Ovadia (Arba Tzomot, p. 352), Yalkut Yosef, Kitzur S"A, Volume 2, 556:7. Birkei Yosef OC 556:2. Shemirat Shabbat Kehilchata 62:45 writes that Birkei Yosef's ruling only applies to adults who are too ill to fast but a child should not recite [[havdala]] himself then, but should wait until after tisha b'av. See also Az Nidbaru 6:53:4 and Rivevot Efraim 3:371. </ref> While typically wine or grape juice is used for Havdala, one should strive to use [[Chamar Medina|chamar medina]], particularly when making Havdala on Tisha BeAv.<ref>Taanit 30b prohibits drinking wine and eating meat "on Tisha BeAv" attributing the following verse to them: "And whose iniquities are upon their bones" (Yechezkel 32:27). It is difficult to understand why the Gemara would need to explicitly forbid these items "on" Tisha Be'av as one may not eat anything on Tisha Be'av (see Rabeinu Chananel who has a different girsa). Rashi therefore explains that this phrase refers to drinking wine or eating meat during the Seuda Mafseket. | #An adult who is exempt from fasting should recite [[Havdalah]] on [[Motzei Shabbat]] before eating.<ref>[http://www.dailyhalacha.com/displayRead.asp?readID=2361 Rabbi Mansour on Dailyhalacha.com] quoting Yechave Daat 3:40, Chazon Ovadia (Arba Tzomot, p. 352), Yalkut Yosef, Kitzur S"A, Volume 2, 556:7. Birkei Yosef OC 556:2. Shemirat Shabbat Kehilchata 62:45 writes that Birkei Yosef's ruling only applies to adults who are too ill to fast but a child should not recite [[havdala]] himself then, but should wait until after tisha b'av. See also Az Nidbaru 6:53:4 and Rivevot Efraim 3:371. [https://www.torahanytime.com/#/lectures?v=199132 Rav Yitzchak Yosef (Motzei Shabbat Matot 5782 min 14)] explained that originally Rav Ovadia held that someone who needs to eat on Tisha B'av that is delayed such as a pregnant woman should wait until they need to eat on Sunday to recite havdalah. However, after Rav Massas argued with him based on the Knesset Hagedola that it is better to recite havdala on Motzei Shabbat, the ideal time for Havdala, he changed his opinion.</ref> While typically wine or grape juice is used for Havdala, one should strive to use [[Chamar Medina|chamar medina]], particularly when making Havdala on Tisha BeAv.<ref>Taanit 30b prohibits drinking wine and eating meat "on Tisha BeAv" attributing the following verse to them: "And whose iniquities are upon their bones" (Yechezkel 32:27). It is difficult to understand why the Gemara would need to explicitly forbid these items "on" Tisha Be'av as one may not eat anything on Tisha Be'av (see Rabeinu Chananel who has a different girsa). Rashi therefore explains that this phrase refers to drinking wine or eating meat during the Seuda Mafseket. | ||
There are two reasons brought as to why these items would be forbidden during the Seuda Mafseket: 1) These were items typically placed on the mizbeach and therefore we commemorate the loss of the Beit Hamikdash by not eating/drinking them 2) This meal matches the prohibitions usually observed by an Onen after he loses a relative before the burial (Trumat Ha'deshen). | There are two reasons brought as to why these items would be forbidden during the Seuda Mafseket: 1) These were items typically placed on the mizbeach and therefore we commemorate the loss of the Beit Hamikdash by not eating/drinking them 2) This meal matches the prohibitions usually observed by an Onen after he loses a relative before the burial (Trumat Ha'deshen). | ||
Thus, according to the first reason there would be an additional reason to prohibit wine and meat on Tisha BeAv which would even apply to someone who is permitted to break their fast, while according to the second reason there would be no additional reason to prohibit wine or meat on Tisha Beav more than the regular rules that govern the 9 days. | Thus, according to the first reason there would be an additional reason to prohibit wine and meat on Tisha BeAv which would even apply to someone who is permitted to break their fast, while according to the second reason there would be no additional reason to prohibit wine or meat on Tisha Beav more than the regular rules that govern the 9 days. | ||
