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# '''Shehiya: Covering the Knobs''': Chazon Ovadia permits the shehiya because of covering the knobs. Orchot Shabbat 2:18 holds that covering the knob with tape permits shehiya. | # '''Shehiya: Covering the Knobs''': Chazon Ovadia permits the shehiya because of covering the knobs. Orchot Shabbat 2:18 holds that covering the knob with tape permits shehiya. | ||
# '''Shehiya: Other Solutions''': Halacha Brurah 253:9 writes that if one covers the heating element with tin foil that solves the shehiya problem. Halacha Brurah 257:32 notes that if one puts in a raw piece of meat before Shabbat that also solves the issue of shehiya. | # '''Shehiya: Other Solutions''': Halacha Brurah 253:9 writes that if one covers the heating element with tin foil that solves the shehiya problem. Halacha Brurah 257:32 notes that if one puts in a raw piece of meat before Shabbat that also solves the issue of shehiya. | ||
# '''Those who permit''': Rav Vosner (Kovetz MeBet Levi 9, [[Shabbat]] LeYisrael pg 373), Sh”t Shevet HaLevi 9:52, and Rav Moshe Feinstein (Sefer Otzrot Ha[[Shabbat]] and Sefer Matmin UMevashel Beshabbat quote it in his name, see also Igros Moshe OC 4:74:Hatmana 4, Teshuvot Vihanhagot 3:106) permit (according to the Rama). Chazon Ovadyah ([[Shabbat]] 1 pg. 64) permits according to S”A based on a Safeka Safeka, and the small airspace, as long as one covers the knob to serve as a reminder. | # '''Those who permit''': Rav Vosner (Kovetz MeBet Levi 9, [[Shabbat]] LeYisrael pg 373), Sh”t Shevet HaLevi 9:52, and Rav Moshe Feinstein (Sefer Otzrot Ha[[Shabbat]] and Sefer Matmin UMevashel Beshabbat quote it in his name, see also Igros Moshe OC 4:74:Hatmana 4, Teshuvot Vihanhagot 3:106) permit (according to the Rama). Chazon Ovadyah ([[Shabbat]] 1 pg. 64) permits according to S”A based on a Safeka Safeka, and the small airspace, as long as one covers the knob to serve as a reminder. [http://www.dailyhalacha.com/m/halacha.aspx?id=1695 Rabbi Eli Mansour] on DailyHalacha.com quotes this opinion of Rav Ovadia. Halacha Brurah 257:32 permits the crock pot for hatmana purposes if the food is intended for tomorrow.<br /> | ||
# '''Those who forbid''': Rav Shlomo Aurbach in Shulchan Shlomo 257:13 forbids. [http://www.yeshiva.co/midrash/shiur.asp?id=18018 Rabbi Daniel Mann] writes that although one is not required to do so, one who wishes to satisfy the opinion of Rav Shlomo Zalman may place little balls of tin foil underneath the removable part of the crock pot to create a separation between the pot of food and the heating element and raise the pot of food about the walls (see Rav Shlomo Zalman's letter in the back of Orchot Shabbat and Orchot Shabbat pg. 113). Rav Elyashiv (commonly quoted “in his name” (as in Sefer Otzrot Ha[[Shabbat]] and Sefer Matmin UMevashel Beshabbat) as forbidding the crock pot, however [[Shabbat]] Hayom recounts that he and his friend Rabbi Ofir Malka showed Rav Elyashiv the pot and Rav Elyashiv permitted it according to the Rama. | # '''Those who forbid''': Rav Shlomo Aurbach in Shulchan Shlomo 257:13 forbids. [http://www.yeshiva.co/midrash/shiur.asp?id=18018 Rabbi Daniel Mann] writes that although one is not required to do so, one who wishes to satisfy the opinion of Rav Shlomo Zalman may place little balls of tin foil underneath the removable part of the crock pot to create a separation between the pot of food and the heating element and raise the pot of food about the walls (see Rav Shlomo Zalman's letter in the back of Orchot Shabbat and Orchot Shabbat pg. 113). Rav Elyashiv (commonly quoted “in his name” (as in Sefer Otzrot Ha[[Shabbat]] and Sefer Matmin UMevashel Beshabbat) as forbidding the crock pot, however [[Shabbat]] Hayom recounts that he and his friend Rabbi Ofir Malka showed Rav Elyashiv the pot and Rav Elyashiv permitted it according to the Rama. | ||
# '''Aluminum Balls Solution''': Orchot Shabbat 2:88 writes that in terms of Shehiya it is considered an uncovered fire which can be solved by creating a space between the pot and the insert. In terms of Hatmana even though the top is uncovered it is still considered insulated since it is mostly surrounded by the heating element. Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach and Rav Elyashiv both held that it is only permitted to using a crock pot is the insert is raised in a noticeable way from the heating element otherwise it would be hatmana. Additionally, Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach added that the food had to be completely cooked before Shabbat to avoid hatmana. Lastly, Rav Wosner held that one should be strict but one doesn't have to protest Ashkenazim who are lenient since it is only partial insulation. </ref> | # '''Aluminum Balls Solution''': Orchot Shabbat 2:88 writes that in terms of Shehiya it is considered an uncovered fire which can be solved by creating a space between the pot and the insert. In terms of Hatmana even though the top is uncovered it is still considered insulated since it is mostly surrounded by the heating element. Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach and Rav Elyashiv both held that it is only permitted to using a crock pot is the insert is raised in a noticeable way from the heating element otherwise it would be hatmana. Additionally, Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach added that the food had to be completely cooked before Shabbat to avoid hatmana. Lastly, Rav Wosner held that one should be strict but one doesn't have to protest Ashkenazim who are lenient since it is only partial insulation. </ref> | ||
