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===Techum of Brooklyn===
===Techum of Brooklyn===
#The techum of Brooklyn and Queens is squared off according to the cardinal directions.<ref>Kovetz Chaburot Halacha v. 3 p. 36 writes that since Brooklyn and Queens have contiguous settlement they are one city. He documents how to cross Prospect Parkway, Ocean Blvd, etc. On this basis he writes that Brooklyn and Queens' shape is not rectangular and has no straight side. Therefore, even Chazon Ish agrees that the techum of Brooklyn should be according to the cardinal directions.</ref> The only question is whether the techum should be a rectangle or follow the curvature of the island near Red Hook, Brooklyn since it is an L shape with a stretch of more than 4000 amot. Either way, the techum of Brooklyn includes most of North Manhattan.  
#The techum of Brooklyn and Queens is squared off according to the cardinal directions.<ref>Kovetz Chaburot Halacha v. 3 p. 36 writes that since Brooklyn and Queens have contiguous settlement they are one city. He documents how to cross Prospect Parkway, Ocean Blvd, etc. On this basis he writes that Brooklyn and Queens' shape is not rectangular and has no straight side. Therefore, even Chazon Ish agrees that the techum of Brooklyn should be according to the cardinal directions.</ref> The only question is whether the techum should be a rectangle or follow the curvature of the island near Red Hook, Brooklyn since it is an L shape with a stretch of more than 4000 amot. Either way, the techum of Brooklyn includes most of North Manhattan.  
##Method 1: The city as a whole is measured by cardinal directions and goes as far as Union City, NJ and includes all of Manhattan.
##Method 1: The city as a whole is measured by cardinal directions and goes as far as Union City, NJ and includes the southern part of Manhattan.
##Method 2: Only go north from the Queens Midtown Tunnel area because before that there are a bunch of L shaped areas that are more than 4000 amot. Kovetz Chabuot Halacha v. 3 pp. 32-33. The reason not to say this is based on Mechzeh Eliyahu 1:82's understanding of Chazon Ish 110:26 that a L shaped area which has an angle smaller than 90 is not judged like an L. Instead it is judged by the cardinal directions. However, Zecher Tzvi (Techum Shabbat Umedidato p. 11) argues that Chazon Ish meant it isn't judged like an L and is squared off as long as the gap isn't greater than 4000 amot. According to this approach the techum of Brooklyn does not start with the furthest most west point. Rather it only starts at about the Queens Midtown Tunnel since from there going northeast the side of the island is pretty straight. Rav Moshe in Igrot Moshe 4:88 implies that the squaring off of Brooklyn begins from the southern part of Brooklyn and includes the Lower East Side of Manhattan. This implication isn't clear; see Gvul Binyamin p. 302 for lengthy discussion of that point.
##Method 2: Only go north from the Queens Midtown Tunnel area because before that there are a bunch of L shaped areas that are more than 4000 amot. Kovetz Chabuot Halacha v. 3 pp. 32-33. The reason not to say this is based on Mechzeh Eliyahu 1:82's understanding of Chazon Ish 110:26 that a L shaped area which has an angle smaller than 90 is not judged like an L. Instead it is judged by the cardinal directions. However, Zecher Tzvi (Techum Shabbat Umedidato p. 11) argues that Chazon Ish meant it isn't judged like an L and is squared off as long as the gap isn't greater than 4000 amot. According to this approach the techum of Brooklyn does not start with the furthest most west point. Rather it only starts at about the Queens Midtown Tunnel since from there going northeast the side of the island is pretty straight. Rav Moshe in Igrot Moshe 4:88 implies that the squaring off of Brooklyn begins from the southern part of Brooklyn and includes the Lower East Side of Manhattan. This implication isn't clear; see Gvul Binyamin p. 302 for lengthy discussion of that point.


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# According to those who hold that Manhattan and Brooklyn are one city for purposes of techum, it is permitted to walk across the Williamsburg bridge on Shabbat.
# According to those who hold that Manhattan and Brooklyn are one city for purposes of techum, it is permitted to walk across the Williamsburg bridge on Shabbat.
#Staten Island is beyond the techum of Brooklyn.<Ref>Otzrot Halacha (v. 6 p. 427)</ref>
#Staten Island is beyond the techum of Brooklyn.<Ref>Otzrot Halacha (v. 6 p. 427)</ref>
===Monsey===
===Monsey===
#For someone who started Shabbat in Monsey, Manhattan and Westchester are beyond the techum.<Ref>Otzrot Halacha (v. 6 p. 427)</ref>
#For someone who started Shabbat in Monsey, Manhattan and Westchester are beyond the techum.<Ref>Otzrot Halacha (v. 6 p. 427)</ref>
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