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## In such a situation, if one accidentally said [[Yaaleh VeYavo]] in the second but not the first, one has not fulfilled one’s obligation. <ref> The Rama 108:9 writes that if one said [[Yaaleh VeYavo]] in the second but not first [[Shmoneh Esrei]] one has no fulfilled one’s obligation of Tashlumin and must repeat it because one has revealed that it was one’s intent to put the Tashlumin first. The Rama is based on a comparison to the law of the Gemara [[Brachot]] 26b that if one forgot [[Mincha]] on [[Shabbat]] one should say [[Arvit]] twice on Motzei [[Shabbat]] and if one said [[Havdalah]] in the second and not the first one has not fulfilled one’s obligation (because one has revealed one’s intent was to put the Tashlumin [[Shmoneh Esrei]] first). This is also found in the Kol Bo (siman 11, quoted in Bet Yosef 422:2) and is accepted by many Achronim including Mishna Brurah 108:27. </ref> However, according to Sephardim some say that one should make a stipulation that if one isn’t obligated that one prays voluntarily. <Ref>The Yeshuot Yacov 108:11 argues that one has fulfilled one’s obligation because one only said [[Yaaleh VeYavo]] in the second [[Shmoneh Esrei]] because initially it is the proper thing to say [[Yaaleh VeYavo]] in the second [[Shmoneh Esrei]]. According to this one could answer (Halacha Brurah, Birur Halacha 108:22) that the Kol Bo only said that one should repeat Tashlumin since he holds that one should only say [[Yaaleh VeYavo]] in the first [[Shmoneh Esrei]]. Therefore, the Halacha Brurah 108:27 writes that one should repeat one’s [[Shmoneh Esrei]] on condition that if one isn’t obligated that it should be a voluntary [[prayer]]. </ref> | ## In such a situation, if one accidentally said [[Yaaleh VeYavo]] in the second but not the first, one has not fulfilled one’s obligation. <ref> The Rama 108:9 writes that if one said [[Yaaleh VeYavo]] in the second but not first [[Shmoneh Esrei]] one has no fulfilled one’s obligation of Tashlumin and must repeat it because one has revealed that it was one’s intent to put the Tashlumin first. The Rama is based on a comparison to the law of the Gemara [[Brachot]] 26b that if one forgot [[Mincha]] on [[Shabbat]] one should say [[Arvit]] twice on Motzei [[Shabbat]] and if one said [[Havdalah]] in the second and not the first one has not fulfilled one’s obligation (because one has revealed one’s intent was to put the Tashlumin [[Shmoneh Esrei]] first). This is also found in the Kol Bo (siman 11, quoted in Bet Yosef 422:2) and is accepted by many Achronim including Mishna Brurah 108:27. </ref> However, according to Sephardim some say that one should make a stipulation that if one isn’t obligated that one prays voluntarily. <Ref>The Yeshuot Yacov 108:11 argues that one has fulfilled one’s obligation because one only said [[Yaaleh VeYavo]] in the second [[Shmoneh Esrei]] because initially it is the proper thing to say [[Yaaleh VeYavo]] in the second [[Shmoneh Esrei]]. According to this one could answer (Halacha Brurah, Birur Halacha 108:22) that the Kol Bo only said that one should repeat Tashlumin since he holds that one should only say [[Yaaleh VeYavo]] in the first [[Shmoneh Esrei]]. Therefore, the Halacha Brurah 108:27 writes that one should repeat one’s [[Shmoneh Esrei]] on condition that if one isn’t obligated that it should be a voluntary [[prayer]]. </ref> | ||
==If | ==If One Forgot to Say Mincha on [[Rosh Chodesh]]== | ||
# If someone forgot Yaaleh Veyavo at mincha of a one day Rosh Chodesh or the second day of a two day Rosh Chodesh and didn’t realize until it was the night, he should recite Tashlumin for Mincha at Arvit without Yaaleh Veyavo but he should stipulate if I'm obligated to say this prayer, this should fulfill my obligation, and if not, this should serve as a voluntary prayer.<Ref> Tosfot Brachot 26b s.v. taah cites Rabbenu Yehuda who says that if someone forgot Yaaleh Veyavo at mincha of Rosh Chodesh he doesn’t need to repeat the Shemona Esrei at Arvit since he gains nothing by saying Tashlumin that night since it isn’t Rosh Chodesh anymore. However, the Tosfot cites the Rabbenu Moshe and Rif who argue that a Shemona Esrei without the Yaaleh Veyavo on Rosh Chodesh is like it isn’t a Shemona Esrei and so one should do Tashlumin at night for mincha. The Tosfot Rabbenu Yehuda, Tosfot Harosh, Rashba Brachot 26b s.v. katvu, Meiri Brachot 26b s.v. shachach all agree with Rabbenu Yehuda. Rabbenu Yonah Brachot 18a s.v. taah writes that since it is a dispute one should recite Tashlumin with a stipulation that it is voluntary. Rosh Brachot 4:2 agrees. Shulchan Aruch 108:11 codifies the Rabbenu Yonah’s compromise. Mishna Brurah 108:33 explains that for the second Shemona Esrei one should stipulate and say if I'm obligated to say this prayer, this should fulfill my obligation, and if not, this should serve as a voluntary prayer.</ref> | # If someone forgot Yaaleh Veyavo at mincha of a one day Rosh Chodesh or the second day of a two day Rosh Chodesh and didn’t realize until it was the night, he should recite Tashlumin for Mincha at Arvit without Yaaleh Veyavo but he should stipulate if I'm obligated to say this prayer, this should fulfill my obligation, and if not, this should serve as a voluntary prayer.<Ref> Tosfot Brachot 26b s.v. taah cites Rabbenu Yehuda who says that if someone forgot Yaaleh Veyavo at mincha of Rosh Chodesh he doesn’t need to repeat the Shemona Esrei at Arvit since he gains nothing by saying Tashlumin that night since it isn’t Rosh Chodesh anymore. However, the Tosfot cites the Rabbenu Moshe and Rif who argue that a Shemona Esrei without the Yaaleh Veyavo on Rosh Chodesh is like it isn’t a Shemona Esrei and so one should do Tashlumin at night for mincha. The Tosfot Rabbenu Yehuda, Tosfot Harosh, Rashba Brachot 26b s.v. katvu, Meiri Brachot 26b s.v. shachach all agree with Rabbenu Yehuda. Rabbenu Yonah Brachot 18a s.v. taah writes that since it is a dispute one should recite Tashlumin with a stipulation that it is voluntary. Rosh Brachot 4:2 agrees. Shulchan Aruch 108:11 codifies the Rabbenu Yonah’s compromise. Mishna Brurah 108:33 explains that for the second Shemona Esrei one should stipulate and say if I'm obligated to say this prayer, this should fulfill my obligation, and if not, this should serve as a voluntary prayer.</ref> | ||
# If Rosh Chodesh was a Friday then one shouldn’t do Tashlumin on Shabbat since one may not recite voluntary prayers on Shabbat.<Ref>Mishna Brurah 108:36</ref> | # If Rosh Chodesh was a Friday then one shouldn’t do Tashlumin on Shabbat since one may not recite voluntary prayers on Shabbat.<Ref>Mishna Brurah 108:36</ref> | ||
==If One Forgot to Say Ten Tal Umatar Lbracha on Friday Afternoon== | |||
# If someone forgot to say Ten Tal Umatar Lbracha on Friday afternoon in mincha and only realized after it was too late for mincha some say that one should repeat say Tashlumin at Arvit of Shabbat to fulfill his obligation of Mincha.<ref>Rav Chaim Soloveitchik (Brachot 26b) wrote that the dispute in Tosfot regarding Yaaleh Veyavo is only relevant there since perhaps a Shemona Esrei without Yaaleh Veyavo counts and if one doesn't gain by repeating Shemona Esrei there's no point to say Tashlumin, however, Ten Tal Umatar Lbracha is integral to the Shemona Esrei and if one forgot it it is as though one didn't pray at all.</ref> Others hold that one shouldn't repeat the Shemona Esrei at Arvit since one doesn't gain saying Ten Tal Umatar Lbracha in the Tashlumin Shemona Esrei.<ref>Har Tzvi 54</ref> | |||
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