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==If one forgot to say Mincha before [[Rosh Chodesh]]== | ==If one forgot to say Mincha before [[Rosh Chodesh]]== | ||
# If one forgot to say [[Mincha]] before [[Rosh Chodesh]] one should say [[Arvit]] on [[Rosh Chodesh]], two [[Shmoneh Esrei]]s with [[Yaaleh VeYavo]], the first one for [[Arvit]] and the second as a makeup for [[Mincha]] (Tashlumin). <Ref>Bet Yosef 422:2 quotes the Kol Bo who says that one only needs to say [[Yaaleh VeYavo]] in the first [[Shmoneh Esrei]]. The Levush 108:9, Olot Tamid 108:12, and the Bet Yosef (as it seems from the Bet Yosef there) agree with the Kol Bo. However, the Darkei Moshe 422:2 argues that one needs to say [[Yaaleh VeYavo]] Magen Avraham (108:7, 10, and 12), Kitzur S”A 21:6, Chaye Adam, and other Achronim including Mishna Brurah 108:26 hold that one should say [[Yaaleh VeYavo]] in both [[Shmoneh Esrei]]s. Halacha Brurah 108:27 (quotingn his father Rav Ovadyah) also agrees with Mishna Brurah. </ref> | # If one forgot to say [[Mincha]] before [[Rosh Chodesh]] one should say [[Arvit]] on [[Rosh Chodesh]], two [[Shmoneh Esrei]]s with [[Yaaleh VeYavo]], the first one for [[Arvit]] and the second as a makeup for [[Mincha]] (Tashlumin). <Ref>Bet Yosef 422:2 quotes the Kol Bo who says that one only needs to say [[Yaaleh VeYavo]] in the first [[Shmoneh Esrei]]. The Levush 108:9, Olot Tamid 108:12, and the Bet Yosef (as it seems from the Bet Yosef there) agree with the Kol Bo. However, the Darkei Moshe 422:2 argues that one needs to say [[Yaaleh VeYavo]] Magen Avraham (108:7, 10, and 12), Kitzur S”A 21:6, Chaye Adam, and other Achronim including Mishna Brurah 108:26 hold that one should say [[Yaaleh VeYavo]] in both [[Shmoneh Esrei]]s. Halacha Brurah 108:27 (quotingn his father Rav Ovadyah) also agrees with Mishna Brurah. </ref> | ||
# | ## In such a situation, if one accidentally said [[Yaaleh VeYavo]] in the second but not the first, one has not fulfilled one’s obligation. <ref> The Rama 108:9 writes that if one said [[Yaaleh VeYavo]] in the second but not first [[Shmoneh Esrei]] one has no fulfilled one’s obligation of Tashlumin and must repeat it because one has revealed that it was one’s intent to put the Tashlumin first. The Rama is based on a comparison to the law of the Gemara [[Brachot]] 26b that if one forgot [[Mincha]] on [[Shabbat]] one should say [[Arvit]] twice on Motzei [[Shabbat]] and if one said [[Havdalah]] in the second and not the first one has not fulfilled one’s obligation (because one has revealed one’s intent was to put the Tashlumin [[Shmoneh Esrei]] first). This is also found in the Kol Bo (siman 11, quoted in Bet Yosef 422:2) and is accepted by many Achronim including Mishna Brurah 108:27. </ref> However, according to Sephardim some say that one should make a stipulation that if one isn’t obligated that one prays voluntarily. <Ref>The Yeshuot Yacov 108:11 argues that one has fulfilled one’s obligation because one only said [[Yaaleh VeYavo]] in the second [[Shmoneh Esrei]] because initially it is the proper thing to say [[Yaaleh VeYavo]] in the second [[Shmoneh Esrei]]. According to this one could answer (Halacha Brurah, Birur Halacha 108:22) that the Kol Bo only said that one should repeat Tashlumin since he holds that one should only say [[Yaaleh VeYavo]] in the first [[Shmoneh Esrei]]. Therefore, the Halacha Brurah 108:27 writes that one should repeat one’s [[Shmoneh Esrei]] on condition that if one isn’t obligated that it should be a voluntary [[prayer]]. </ref> | ||
==If one forgot to say Mincha on [[Rosh Chodesh]]== | ==If one forgot to say Mincha on [[Rosh Chodesh]]== | ||
# If one forgot to say Mincha on [[Rosh Chodesh]] and only remembers after Rosh Chodesh, he should say Tashlumin at Avrit even though there's no mention of Yaaleh VeYavo. One should stipulate if I'm obligated to say this prayer, this should fulfill my obligation, and if not, this should serve as a voluntary prayer.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 108:11, Mishna Brurah 108:33</ref> | # If one forgot to say Mincha on [[Rosh Chodesh]] and only remembers after Rosh Chodesh, he should say Tashlumin at Avrit even though there's no mention of Yaaleh VeYavo. One should stipulate if I'm obligated to say this prayer, this should fulfill my obligation, and if not, this should serve as a voluntary prayer.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 108:11, Mishna Brurah 108:33</ref> | ||
