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# A father should fast in place of his son who is a firstborn but is under [[Bar Mitzvah]]. According to the minhag to listen to a Siyum, the father should go to the Siyum in place of his son. <Ref>Rama 470:2, Piskei Teshuvot 470:6, Yalkut Yosef 470:19, Yosef Daat (Dinei [[Chinuch]] 16:3) </ref> | # A father should fast in place of his son who is a firstborn but is under [[Bar Mitzvah]]. According to the minhag to listen to a Siyum, the father should go to the Siyum in place of his son. <Ref>Rama 470:2, Piskei Teshuvot 470:6, Yalkut Yosef 470:19, Yosef Daat (Dinei [[Chinuch]] 16:3) </ref> | ||
# If the firstborn child isn't yet 30 days old the father doesn't have to fast or listen to a siyum but if it is possible to do so he should.<ref>Yalkut Yosef 470:19</ref> | # If the firstborn child isn't yet 30 days old the father doesn't have to fast or listen to a siyum but if it is possible to do so he should.<ref>Yalkut Yosef 470:19</ref> | ||
# The Rama writes that if the father is a firstborn, the mother should fast for her firstborn son who is under [[Bar Mitzvah]]. <ref>Rama 470:2</ref> However, the Mishna Brurah quotes some poskim who say that the father's fast counts for the son as well. Therefore, the Mishna Brurah allows a mother to be lenient if she is in pain. <ref> Mishna Brurah 470:9 </ref> | # The Rama writes that if the father is a firstborn, the mother should fast for her firstborn son who is under [[Bar Mitzvah]].<ref>Rama 470:2</ref> However, the Mishna Brurah quotes some poskim who say that the father's fast counts for the son as well. Therefore, the Mishna Brurah allows a mother to be lenient if she is in pain. <ref> Mishna Brurah 470:9 </ref> | ||
# The Aruch HaShulchan writes that we no longer have the minhag that a parent should fast for a firstborn son who is under [[Bar Mitzvah]]. <ref>Aruch HaShulchan 470:4</ref> | # The Aruch HaShulchan writes that we no longer have the minhag that a parent should fast for a firstborn son who is under [[Bar Mitzvah]]. <ref>Aruch HaShulchan 470:4</ref> | ||
#If the father is a firstborn and also has a young son who is a firstborn, it is sufficient for the father to hear a siyum for both of them.<ref>[https://images.shulcloud.com/709/uploads/YoungIsraelofWoodmerePesachHalachaBooklet.pdf Rav Hershel Schachter (YIW Packet)] held that it is sufficient for the father to hear the siyum for himself since it is a stringency anyway for the son to have to hear the siyum. He said that is the minhag unlike the Nitai Gavriel 2:42:5 quoting the Beer Moshe who held that it is necessary for the father to listen to a siyum for himself and the mother to hear a siyum for herself.</ref> | |||
==Those who are unable to fast== | ==Those who are unable to fast== | ||
