Talk:Bread

• The Dirshu 168:47 quotes the Aruch Hashulchan as holding that matzah brei is mezonot unlike the safek that most poskim hold it is. However, from the context and Mishna Brurah 168:59 it seems clear that the Aruch Hashulchan is discussing something other than matzah brei. He is discussing something that is deep fried as the Mishna Brurah writes about the very same foods or matzah which is crushed up so that it isn't recognizable as the Aruch Hashulchan's words imply or both. The Piskei Teshuvot (168 fnt. 120) explains that the Aruch Hashulchan is discussing matzah that was crushed up and is unrecognizable and if so the citation of the Dirshu to Aruch Hashulchan is irrelevant.
• Additionally, the Dirshu's quote of Shevet Halevi 7:27:4 is irrelevant. The Shevet Halevi first just quotes the Maharshach that says that crushed up matzah which was fried is mezonot but it is very likely that he is either talking about deep frying or where the matzah isn't recognizable. Regarding the last point that the Shevet Halevi makes, that perhaps it is mezonot since there are some opinions that it is mezonot all year round, is only a suggestion but the Shevet Halevi clearly writes that he is afraid to actually hold like that suggestion.--YitzchakSultan (talk) 12:21, 18 July 2017 (EDT)
• Matzah Brei for Sephardim: Maharsham 8:81 quotes the Gan Hamelech who suggests the possibility that even for Ashekanazim the bracha on fried matzah would be mezonot since it is only hamotzei since it is designated as a meal food for the mitzvah of matzah but fried matzah which isn't fit for the mitzvah of matzah might be mezonot. Piskei Teshuvot (168 note 120) discusses the Maharsham and adds that the Chazon Ish seems to totally ignore this consideration. This also seems to be against the entire Maharshach 1:163 about crushed and fried matzah quoted by the Knesset Hagedola (Hagahot Hatur 168:5), Magen Avraham 168:28, and Kaf Hachaim 168:85 as the Maharsham himself notes. Chazon Ovadia (Brachot p. 65) rejects the Gan Hamelech's idea completely based on the Shulchan Aruch Harav and others. (Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 48:87 accepts the Maharshach but is discussing bread.)
• Piskei Teshuvot writes that for Sephardim who consider Matza all year round to be Mezonot also can consider Matza Brei to be Mezonot on Pesach. He doesn't source this other than the Yalkut Yosef (Brachot p. 127) who simply writes that the minhag of Sephardim not on Pesach is to recite mezonot but doesn't mention matzah brei. He basically is ruling in accordance of the Maharsham's Gan Hamelech but only for Sephardim. However, Chazon Ovadia doesn't seem to accept this opinion.
• However, Sephardim hold it is mezonot for another reason. They consider frying to be like cooking (Yalkut Yosef Brachot p. 127 and Halacha Brurah 168:34).