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*Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 77:16 writes that one must eat bread for Seudat Shelishit, however, if one is very full and is unable, then one should eat [[Mezonot]]. If that is also impossible one should have food which usually accompany bread such as meat or fish. If that too is impossible one should have at least fruit cooked fruit. | *Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 77:16 writes that one must eat bread for Seudat Shelishit, however, if one is very full and is unable, then one should eat [[Mezonot]]. If that is also impossible one should have food which usually accompany bread such as meat or fish. If that too is impossible one should have at least fruit cooked fruit. | ||
*Aruch Hashulchan 291:12 says that it is not proper to rely on any of these opinions unless one is sick. | *Aruch Hashulchan 291:12 says that it is not proper to rely on any of these opinions unless one is sick. | ||
*Magen Avraham 444:2 when discussing what to do on erev [[pesach]] that falls out on [[shabbat]] gives several options and also quotes the Shla saying that one may fulfill seudat shlishit with divrei torah. The Rokeach 55 allows one to skip seudat shlishit to go here a shiur in the afternoon. Pri Megadim (E"A 290) disagrees and says one shouldn't miss seudat shlishit even to hear a shiur. Aruch Hashulchan 290:3 and Kaf Hachayim 290:14 agree with the Pri Megadim.</ref> One may not rely on this leniency of not having bread for the Friday night meal or the first daytime meal.<ref>Tosfot Pesachim 101a s.v. tiyma writes that even though it is possible to have targima for the seudat shelishit it is ineffective for the Friday night or first daytime meal since those are the main meals fulfilling kavod Shabbat (Oneg). Rabbenu Yonah Brachot 36b s.v. birchat explains it differently. He explains that it doesn't work for the first two meals since it is necessary to have a bread meal then since it is necessary to have bread for kiddush bmakom seudah.</ref> | *Magen Avraham 444:2 when discussing what to do on erev [[pesach]] that falls out on [[shabbat]] gives several options and also quotes the Shla saying that one may fulfill seudat shlishit with divrei torah. The Rokeach 55 allows one to skip seudat shlishit to go here a shiur in the afternoon. Pri Megadim (E"A 290) disagrees and says one shouldn't miss seudat shlishit even to hear a shiur. Aruch Hashulchan 290:3 and Kaf Hachayim 290:14 agree with the Pri Megadim.</ref> One may not rely on this leniency of not having bread for the Friday night meal or the first daytime meal.<ref>Tosfot Pesachim 101a s.v. tiyma writes that even though it is possible to have targima for the seudat shelishit it is ineffective for the Friday night or first daytime meal since those are the main meals fulfilling kavod Shabbat (Oneg). Rabbenu Yonah Brachot 36b s.v. birchat explains it differently. He explains that it doesn't work for the first two meals since it is necessary to have a bread meal then since it is necessary to have bread for kiddush bmakom seudah. Yachava Daat 2:20:2 writes that even the opinion who holds that seudah shelishit can be fulfilled with mezonot agrees that the first two meals of Shabbat require bread. He also quotes this from Shevet Halevi 1:57. Rav Dovid Yosef (Otzrot Yosef 18:4) notes several achronim who explain that you can fulfill any of the meals of Shabbat with mezonot, but defends his father's position. See also Chazon Ovadia v. 2 p. 194 and Yabia Omer 6:28:5. </ref> | ||
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