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# Some poskim consider Scrabble a kli shemelachto li'isur since it is a game which involves writing down the score.<ref> Sefer Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] pg. 24 </ref> | # Some poskim consider Scrabble a kli shemelachto li'isur since it is a game which involves writing down the score.<ref> Sefer Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] pg. 24 </ref> | ||
# It’s forbidden to play a game that one normally writes when playing the game, since we are concerned that one might absent-mindedly write while playing the game. (See the page on [[Kotaiv]].) <Ref> Chaye Adam ([[Shabbat]] 38:11) </ref> Therefore, some say that scrabble shouldn’t be played on [[Shabbat]] because one normally writes when playing the game. <ref>Children in Halacha (Rabbi Simcha Bunim, pg 135), Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] (Halachos of [[Muktzeh]] pg 24), The Shabbos Home (Rabbi Simcha Bunim Cohen, Vol. I, pg 12) </ref> | # It’s forbidden to play a game that one normally writes when playing the game, since we are concerned that one might absent-mindedly write while playing the game. (See the page on [[Kotaiv]].) <Ref> Chaye Adam ([[Shabbat]] 38:11) </ref> Therefore, some say that scrabble shouldn’t be played on [[Shabbat]] because one normally writes when playing the game. <ref>Children in Halacha (Rabbi Simcha Bunim, pg 135), Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] (Halachos of [[Muktzeh]] pg 24), The Shabbos Home (Rabbi Simcha Bunim Cohen, Vol. I, pg 12) </ref> | ||
# However, playing scrabble does not violate the melacha of koseiv according to many poskim, since all you are doing is arranging letters that are already formed, and not writing any new letters<ref>The Shabbos Home (Rav Simcha Bunim Cohen, Vol I, pg. 12)</ref>. However, if the scrabble board has individual squares for each tile, then this may violate koseiv since now you are arranging the letters in a more permanent way<ref>The Magen Avraham (siman 340:10) thinks that there is an isur of koseiv if one attaches pre-formed letters made out of silver to a garment. Based on this, Rav Moshe (Igros Moshe OC 1:135) suggests that maybe one shouldn't use a paginator on shabbos in the shul, but he concludes that simply placing the numbers next to each other - העמדה בעלמא - is not prohibited. Rather, it is only prohibited if there is some connection between the numbers - חיבור הקובען, because then this can be viewed as koseiv or mocheik. | # However, playing scrabble does not violate the melacha of koseiv according to many poskim, since all you are doing is arranging letters that are already formed, and not writing any new letters<ref>The Shabbos Home (Rav Simcha Bunim Cohen, Vol I, pg. 12)</ref>. However, if the scrabble board has individual squares for each tile, then this may violate koseiv since now you are arranging the letters in a more permanent way<ref>The Magen Avraham (siman 340:10) thinks that there is an isur of koseiv if one attaches pre-formed letters made out of silver to a garment. Based on this, Rav Moshe (Igros Moshe OC 1:135) suggests that maybe one shouldn't use a paginator on shabbos in the shul, but he concludes that simply placing the numbers next to each other - העמדה בעלמא - is not prohibited. Rather, it is only prohibited if there is some connection between the numbers - חיבור הקובען, because then this can be viewed as koseiv or mocheik. Rabbi Bodner (Halachos of Muktza, pg 25) cites in the name of Rav Moshe that one can distinguish between different types of scrabble boards. If the board has individual squares to place each tile, then this might be viewed as a connection - חיבור - such that placing the tiles into these squares would constitute a prohibition of koseiv according to the Magen Avraham. </ref>. | ||
==Card Games== | ==Card Games== | ||
