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* The Taz 396:2 has a third approach. He says that once aveilut was pushed off it is completely pushed off altogether. His proof is from Sanhedrin 47b that the relatives of a person who was killed by Bet Din don't have aveilut. The gemara asks but doesn't have kapara after he is buried and the body is affected by the burial. The second answer of the gemara is that once the aveilut wasn't fit to begin when he was buried, it can't didn't set in afterwards either. | * The Taz 396:2 has a third approach. He says that once aveilut was pushed off it is completely pushed off altogether. His proof is from Sanhedrin 47b that the relatives of a person who was killed by Bet Din don't have aveilut. The gemara asks but doesn't have kapara after he is buried and the body is affected by the burial. The second answer of the gemara is that once the aveilut wasn't fit to begin when he was buried, it can't didn't set in afterwards either. | ||
* The Shulchan Aruch 396:3 follows the opinion of the Rosh, while the Bach 396:2 follows the opinion of the Maharam. The Taz accepts Shulchan Aruch for his own reason, and the Nekudat Hakesef argues with the Taz's proof. The Nekudat Hakesef's distinction is that when the person wasn't fit to be mourned over then the entire aveilut is totally pushed off, however, if there was aveilut but just the relative was exempt at the time then the aveilut can set it afterwards. </ref> | * The Shulchan Aruch 396:3 follows the opinion of the Rosh, while the Bach 396:2 follows the opinion of the Maharam. The Taz accepts Shulchan Aruch for his own reason, and the Nekudat Hakesef argues with the Taz's proof. The Nekudat Hakesef's distinction is that when the person wasn't fit to be mourned over then the entire aveilut is totally pushed off, however, if there was aveilut but just the relative was exempt at the time then the aveilut can set it afterwards. </ref> | ||
==Mourning for Two Relatives Simultaneously== | |||
# If someone had two relatives who passed away he can observe aveilut for both of them at the same time. If they passed away with some separation he starts the second aveilut continues until it would have regularly finished just like if there would not been the first aveilut.<ref>Shulchan Aruch YD 402:9</ref> | |||
==Informing Someone of Bad News== | |||
# It is improper to be the bearer of bad news and as such there is no obligation to tell someone about his relative's death. However, if he is asked if someone died he can say someone ambiguous but he can't lie.<ref>Shulchan Aruch YD 402:12, Taz 402:8</ref> The Ashkenazic minhag is to inform the sons of the deceased so that they can say kaddish for their father.<ref>Rama YD 402:12</ref> | |||
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