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# Ginat Veradim interestingly posits you can choose. | # Ginat Veradim interestingly posits you can choose. | ||
See [http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=7658&st=&pgnum=303 Yafeh LeLev Orach Chayim vol. 1 159:6] who adds another challenging citation to the Yad Malachi's list, [http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=7976&st=&pgnum=297 Petach HaDevir vol 3 pg 296 col 3], and Sdei Chemed (Klalei HaPoskim 13:14-15), as cited in Matnat Yado fn. 71.</ref> | See [http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=7658&st=&pgnum=303 Yafeh LeLev Orach Chayim vol. 1 159:6] who adds another challenging citation to the Yad Malachi's list, [http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=7976&st=&pgnum=297 Petach HaDevir vol 3 pg 296 col 3], and Sdei Chemed (Klalei HaPoskim 13:14-15), as cited in Matnat Yado fn. 71.</ref> | ||
# "Yesh veYesh" means "Yesh Omrim X veYesh Omrim Y," but "Yesh vePloni," such as "Yesh Omrim X, veHaRambam Omer Y" would not qualify under this rule; rather, Maran is highlighting the opinion of a Yachid that we do not follow.<ref>Yad Malachi (Klalei Shulchan Aruch 14</ref> | # "Yesh veYesh" means "Yesh Omrim X veYesh Omrim Y," but "Yesh vePloni," such as "Yesh Omrim X, veHaRambam Omer Y" would not qualify under this rule; rather, Maran is highlighting the opinion of a Yachid that we do not follow.<ref>Yad Malachi (Klalei Shulchan Aruch 14</ref> Some might argue that when both Yesh Omrim's begin with a vav - "'''ve'''Yesh Omrim X, '''ve'''Yesh Omrim Y" - the rule does not apply.<ref>Magen Avot Orach Chaim 422:2 fn. 308 s.v. Vegam.</ref> | ||
# When Maran presents the first opinion in the plural "Yesh Omrim" (יש אומרים) and the second in the singular "Yesh Mi SheOmer" (ויש מי שאומר), the Ginat Veradim and Kenesset HaGedolah understand that he accepts the first position and is implying that the latter one is a Yachid.<ref>However, the Yad Malachi (Klalei Shulchan Aruch 15) feels the Kenesset HaGedolah eventually retracted his position in his Klalim, while others argue that he misunderstood the second Klal and there was never a retraction (Matnat Yado ad loc.). It's noteworthy how Maran presents a Yesh Omrim veYesh Mi SheOmer in Choshen Mishpat 213 and the Chida (Birkei Yosef Orach Chaim 561) treats it like a regular Yesh veYesh.</ref> | # When Maran presents the first opinion in the plural "Yesh Omrim" (יש אומרים) and the second in the singular "Yesh Mi SheOmer" (ויש מי שאומר), the Ginat Veradim and Kenesset HaGedolah understand that he accepts the first position and is implying that the latter one is a Yachid.<ref>However, the Yad Malachi (Klalei Shulchan Aruch 15) feels the Kenesset HaGedolah eventually retracted his position in his Klalim, while others argue that he misunderstood the second Klal and there was never a retraction (Matnat Yado ad loc.). It's noteworthy how Maran presents a Yesh Omrim veYesh Mi SheOmer in Choshen Mishpat 213 and the Chida (Birkei Yosef Orach Chaim 561) treats it like a regular Yesh veYesh.</ref> | ||
# If there's an added layer of distinction to be made, it will sometimes be appended as a Yesh Omrim to a Stam, not because it's a Machaloket but because the distinction wasn't exicit in the first opinion's presentation.<ref>Yad Malachi (Klalei Shulchan Aruch 6)</ref> | # If there's an added layer of distinction to be made, it will sometimes be appended as a Yesh Omrim to a Stam, not because it's a Machaloket but because the distinction wasn't exicit in the first opinion's presentation.<ref>Yad Malachi (Klalei Shulchan Aruch 6)</ref> | ||
