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# Listening to someone's bracha with Shomea Konah isn't permitted in front of ervah since one couldn't possibly have said it oneself.<ref>Mishna Brurah 75:29</ref> | # Listening to someone's bracha with Shomea Konah isn't permitted in front of ervah since one couldn't possibly have said it oneself.<ref>Mishna Brurah 75:29</ref> | ||
===Brov Am Hadrat Melech=== | ===Brov Am Hadrat Melech=== | ||
# It is preferable to have multiple listen to one bracha rather than have everyone say it themselves because of the principle of | # It is preferable to have multiple listen to one bracha rather than have everyone say it themselves because of the principle of ''Brov Am Hadrat Melech'', Hashem is honored with a greater multitude of people. This concept trumps the idea of Mtizvah Bo Yoter Mebeshelucho.<ref>Mishna Brurah 213:3</ref> Although it is possible for each individual to recite their own bracha and everyone have negative kavana and then to recite it themselves, it is better to say the bracha together.<ref>Maharashdam OC 1 writes that although it is possible to have negative kavana and a person should have to recite their own bracha it isn't a proper practice since it increases the amount of brachot made and it is preferable to minimize those. See also Mabit 1:117. Shulchan Aruch Harav 59:4 writes that brov am hadrat melech applies to birchot hashachar. Vayikra Avraham YD 4 writes that agrees and proves it from Shulchan Aruch O.C. 8, 66, 296, 298, 432, 489, Y.D. 265, E.H. 62. [Several sources indicate that it is fine to split it up: S”A O.C. 6:5, 8:5, 296:7, 489:1, and Magen Avraham 619:3. Several sources indicate that you should not split up: 298:14, 432:2, YD 265:5, EH 62:3.]</ref> | ||
==Brachot on Food== | ==Brachot on Food== | ||
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# According to Sephardim one may not fulfill the obligation of someone else in asher yatzer unless one is personally obligated.<ref>Yalkut Yosef 6:11. See also Yabia Omer OC 9:3:2.</ref> | # According to Sephardim one may not fulfill the obligation of someone else in asher yatzer unless one is personally obligated.<ref>Yalkut Yosef 6:11. See also Yabia Omer OC 9:3:2.</ref> | ||
# If one already fulfilled Kiddush or didn't yet fulfill it but isn't going to fulfill it with this Kiddush he can still recite it for another person even if one doesn't eat it there his meal. However, he needs to give the cup to someone else to drink a Reviyit or a majority of it. Yet, if the person who is listening knows how to make Kiddush he should make it himself.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 273:4 writes that only if the person doesn't know how to recite kiddush can someone else make kiddush for them even though he isn't going to fulfill his obligation. The Mishna Brurah 273:20 disagrees and holds that it is only preferable to let the person hearing Kiddush and knows how to recite it to do it himself but after the fact certainly it is effective. Rav Ovadia Yosef in [http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=25473&st=&pgnum=15 Kol Sinai Tevet 5724)] agrees after the fact.</ref> | # If one already fulfilled Kiddush or didn't yet fulfill it but isn't going to fulfill it with this Kiddush he can still recite it for another person even if one doesn't eat it there his meal. However, he needs to give the cup to someone else to drink a Reviyit or a majority of it. Yet, if the person who is listening knows how to make Kiddush he should make it himself.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 273:4 writes that only if the person doesn't know how to recite kiddush can someone else make kiddush for them even though he isn't going to fulfill his obligation. The Mishna Brurah 273:20 disagrees and holds that it is only preferable to let the person hearing Kiddush and knows how to recite it to do it himself but after the fact certainly it is effective. Rav Ovadia Yosef in [http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=25473&st=&pgnum=15 Kol Sinai Tevet 5724)] agrees after the fact.</ref> | ||
# If one didn't yet fulfill his mitzvah but is going to later on he can be motzei others in their mitzvah.<ref>Rif Pesachim 27a, Tur and Shulchan Aruch O.C. 484:1. The Rif says that you can make kiddush and the whole seder for many families either by first having the seder at home and then in everyone else's home or the opposite. The Tur 484:1 and Shulchan Aruch codify this as the halacha. Mishna Brurah 484:9 explains that even if you don't have kavana to be yotzei at the first person's home you can still be motzei the others but then one can't eat there since one didn't yet fulfill kiddush.</ref> | |||
===If One Isn't Currently Obligated=== | ===If One Isn't Currently Obligated=== | ||
