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==If one made a Shinui Makom==
==If one made a Shinui Makom==
# The result of a Shinui Makom is only that one must make a new [[Bracha Rishona]] but it does not effect the [[Bracha Achrona]] and so if one ate fruit and then changed places only a new [[Bracha Rishona]] is required.<ref>Tosfot Pesachim 101b s.v. shehen, Rosh Pesachim 10:6, Vezot HaBracha (pg 60, chapter 6) </ref>
# The result of a Shinui Makom is only that one must make a new [[Bracha Rishona]] but it does not effect the [[Bracha Achrona]] and so if one ate fruit and then changed places only a new [[Bracha Rishona]] is required.<ref>Tosfot Pesachim 101b s.v. shehen, Rosh Pesachim 10:6, Mordechai Pesachim 101b s.v. kshehen, Tur 178:1, Vezot HaBracha (pg 60, chapter 6). Tosfot explains that only a new bracha rishona is necessary since a shinui makom is like a hesech hadaat, interruption of thought. However, it would not require a bracha achrona as that can be exempted with the bracha achrona after the second eating. Ramban (Milchamot Hashem Pesachim 19b) argues that shinui makom is more significant than a regular hesech hadaat. It is a complete uproot of one's meal and requires a bracha achrona and another bracha rishona when one wants to eat again. Baal Hameor 19b agrees for another reason. He says that you need a bracha achrona before the next bracha rishona because each bracha rishona requires a separate bracha achrona. Since the new meal in the new place is independent with respect to the bracha rishona, so too for bracha achrona it needs a separate bracha achrona. </ref>


==When it is permissible initially==
==When it is permissible initially==
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