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# Moving from a [[Sukkah]] to the house, if the [[Sukkah]] is not connected to the house, then it is considered like moving from one house to another and is a shinui makom. However, if it is connected to the house then it's like going from one room to another and isn't a shinui makom. <Ref> Vezot HaBracha (pg 58, chapter 6) </ref> According to Sephardim, one may move between the [[Sukkah]] and the kitchen in order to get food and it is not considered a shinui makom. <ref>Yalkut Yosef ([[Brachot]] pg 215) </ref> | # Moving from a [[Sukkah]] to the house, if the [[Sukkah]] is not connected to the house, then it is considered like moving from one house to another and is a shinui makom. However, if it is connected to the house then it's like going from one room to another and isn't a shinui makom. <Ref> Vezot HaBracha (pg 58, chapter 6) </ref> According to Sephardim, one may move between the [[Sukkah]] and the kitchen in order to get food and it is not considered a shinui makom. <ref>Yalkut Yosef ([[Brachot]] pg 215) </ref> | ||
===Cases that are not Shinui Makom=== | ===Cases that are not Shinui Makom=== | ||
# Moving from corner to corner in one room isn’t considered a Shinui Makom even if one can’t see from one corner to the other. <Ref> | # Moving from corner to corner in one room isn’t considered a Shinui Makom even if one can’t see from one corner to the other.<Ref>Gemara Pesachim 101b, Rambam Brachot 4:5, Tur and Shulchan Aruch O.C. 178:1, Mishna Brurah 178:9, 23 Vezot HaBracha (pg 56, chapter 6). However, the Ran Pesachim 20a s.v. aval thinks that going from corner to corner could sometimes be a shinui makom. For foods that generally a person doesn't establish where they're going to eat such as wine or fruit going from one place in the room to the other isn't a shinui. However, for mezonot or hamotzei foods even moving from corner to corner is a shinui makom. </ref> | ||
# Moving in an open area outdoors is not considered a Shinui Makom if it’s still possible to see the place from where one started. <Ref>Mishna Brurah 178:25, Vezot HaBracha (pg 57, chapter 6) </ref> | # Moving in an open area outdoors is not considered a Shinui Makom if it’s still possible to see the place from where one started.<Ref>Bet Yosef 178:1 commenting on Rambam Brachot 4:5, Mishna Brurah 178:25, Vezot HaBracha (pg 57, chapter 6) </ref> | ||
# Moving in an enclosed area outdoors (like a fenced in area) is not considered a Shinui Makom even if one can’t see the place from where one started. <Ref>Mishna Brurah 178:25, Vezot HaBracha (pg 57, chapter 6), see there what he quotes in name of Rav Elyashiv regarding an enclosure of an eruv of [[Shabbat]]. </ref> | # Moving in an enclosed area outdoors (like a fenced in area) is not considered a Shinui Makom even if one can’t see the place from where one started. <Ref>Mishna Brurah 178:25, Vezot HaBracha (pg 57, chapter 6), see there what he quotes in name of Rav Elyashiv regarding an enclosure of an eruv of [[Shabbat]]. Bet Yosef 178:1 quotes the Orchot Chaim Brachot 18 who writes that moving from part of an enclosed garden or orchard to another is a shinui makom unless one had intention to move around. Yet, moving from one enclosed garden or orchard to another even with intention it is a shinui makom.</ref> | ||
===Cases that are in doubt and are preferable to avoid=== | ===Cases that are in doubt and are preferable to avoid=== | ||
# In the first place one may not switch from place to place from room to room under one roof (unless one had intention originally or can see from room to room). However, after the fact it is not considered a Shinui Makom. <Ref> Beiur Halacha 178:1 s.v. Bayit, Vezot HaBracha (pg 56, chapter 6). [See the Beiur Halacha who writes that those who commonly move from room to room have what to rely on.] Tosfot Pesachim 101b s.v. elah holds that changing from room to room is a shinuy makom.</ref> | # In the first place one may not switch from place to place from room to room under one roof (unless one had intention originally or can see from room to room). However, after the fact it is not considered a Shinui Makom. <Ref> Beiur Halacha 178:1 s.v. Bayit, Vezot HaBracha (pg 56, chapter 6). [See the Beiur Halacha who writes that those who commonly move from room to room have what to rely on.] Tosfot Pesachim 101b s.v. elah holds that changing from room to room is a shinuy makom.</ref> | ||
