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==Which changes are considered a Shinui Makom?== | ==Which changes are considered a Shinui Makom?== | ||
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===Seeing from one place to another=== | ===Seeing from one place to another=== | ||
# If one can see from the room in which started eating to the room one wants to move, even in the first place, it’s permissible to move. <Ref> Mishna Brurah 178:12, Vezot HaBracha (pg 58, chapter 6) </ref> Some say that one must see the area (within 4 amot) in the room where one ate, however, many hold even if one can only see a part of the room it’s considered as seeing the original place. <Ref>Vezot HaBracha (pg 58, chapter 6) </ref> | # If one can see from the room in which started eating to the room one wants to move, even in the first place, it’s permissible to move. <Ref> Mishna Brurah 178:12, Vezot HaBracha (pg 58, chapter 6) </ref> Some say that one must see the area (within 4 amot) in the room where one ate, however, many hold even if one can only see a part of the room it’s considered as seeing the original place. <Ref>Vezot HaBracha (pg 58, chapter 6) </ref> | ||
# Even if one can see from house to house (or outside), moving there will be a doubtful Shinui and so it should be avoided, however, if one did move there, no Bracha is required. <Ref>Vezot HaBracha (pg 58 #4, chapter 6) </ref> | |||
==If one left friends== | |||
# If one ate together with friends (any food or drink) in the place where one ate (assuming they are eating together unlike a restaurant where everyone is separate) when one returns no new Bracha Rishona is needed. <ref>S”A 168:2, Mishna Brurah 168:14,18,27 </ref> | |||
# Even one person and even a child suffice for this purpose. <Ref>Mishna Brurah 168:14, Vezot HaBracha (pg 61) in name of Rav Sheinburg </ref> | |||
is this lechatchila s’a harav 168:5 | |||
==Eating on the walk== | |||
# If one eats on the walk or if one is about to leave the house and one plans on eating while walking one doesn’t need a new Bracha even if one walks into a house and continues eating there. <Ref>S”A 168:4, Vezot HaBracha (pg 62, chapter 5) </ref> | |||
# If one began eating in the car and one can continue outside the car without a new Bracha because it’s considered eating on the walk. <Ref> Vezot HaBracha (pg 62, chapter 5) </ref> | |||
==Eating continuously== | |||
# If one ate continuously even if one didn’t have in mind to change places, one doesn’t need a new Bracha upon changing places. For example, if one left the house with a candy in his mouth no new Bracha is needed. <ref>Sh”t Igrot Moshe OC 2:57, Vezot HaBracha (pg 62, chapter 6) </ref> | |||
# Additionally, if one ate within interruption such as if one ate chips without an break of Toch Kedi Dibbur (2-3 sec), however, in this case if one changed places (left the house) it’s preferable to make an interruption and make a new Bracha. . <ref>Sh”t Igrot Moshe OC 2:57, Vezot HaBracha (pg 62, chapter 6) </ref> | |||
==Which Foods does Shinui Makom apply to?== | |||
# If one had a Kezayit of bread there’s no Shinui Makom whether one leaves that place and returns or if one leaves that place and goes to another place, no new Bracha Rishona is needed. <ref>Vezot HaBracha (pg 60, chapter 6) </ref> | |||
# Even by bread, initially, one may not move from house to house unless one had intent to do so from the beginning. <ref>Vezot HaBracha (pg 60, chapter 6) </ref> | |||
# If one had less than a Kezayit of bread, Mezonot, or Shivat HaMinim (grapes, figs, pomegranates, olives, dates) it’s like all other foods and if one changes places a new Bracha would be required. <ref>Vezot HaBracha (pg 60, chapter 6) </ref> | |||
# Even by bread, initially one may not make a Shinui for an extended period of time because one may forget to return and make Birkat haMazon, however, it’s permissible to make a Shinui for a short time. In order to perform a mitzvah, it’s permissible to leave the area for a long time, however, one should make sure not to forget the Bracha Achrona within Shuir Ikul. If one is afraid that one will forget, then one should make the Bracha Achrona before moving to the other place. <ref>Vezot HaBracha (pg 61, chapter 6) </ref> | |||
# If one had a Kezayit of Mezonot or the other Shivat HaMinim (7 Species of which Israel is praised), initially one should be careful not to make a Shinui, and if one needs to leave, then one should make a Bracha Achrona on that which one ate, move places, and then make a new Bracha Rishona. However, after the fact (that one didn’t make a Bracha Achrona), no new Bracha is needed. <ref>Vezot HaBracha (pg 59-60, chapter 6) </ref> | |||
==If one made a Shinui Makom== | |||
# The result of a Shinui Makom is only that one must make a new Bracha Rishona but it does not effect the Bracha Achrona and so if one ate fruit and then changed places only a new Bracha Rishona is required. <ref>Vezot HaBracha (pg 60, chapter 6) </ref> | |||
==When it is permissible initially== | |||
# If one is in a situation of Safek Brachot it’s permissible to make a Shinui Makom and then make a new Bracha Rishona. <Ref> Sh”t Yachava Daat 6:11, Sh”t Yabea Omer O”C 6:27, Sh”t Chazon Ovadyah 1:18, Yalkut Yosef (vol 3 pg 224) </ref> | |||
==Sephardim== | |||
===Bread Meal=== | |||
# Someone eating a meal, preferably, one should make sure not to change one’s place even to another room, even if one leaves friends there, even if one intended originally to move places, and even if one plans on returning. <Ref>Yalkut Yacov (S”A Kitzur S”A 178:1) </ref> | |||
# If one needs to leave one should make a Birkat HaMazon and then when one returns to make a new Bracha. After the fact, if one left and didn’t make Birkat HaMazon, when one returns one should continue eating without a new Bracha. <Ref>Yalkut Yacov (Brachot pg 209, 218) </ref> | |||
# It’s permissible to leave the meal to go to the kitchen to get food. <Ref> Yalkut Yacov (Brachot pg 215) </ref> | |||
# it’s permissible to leave the Sukkah to get food from the house. <Ref> Yalkut Yacov (Brachot pg 215) </ref> | |||
# For a Mitzvah (going to daven in a minyan if there’s no others, going to a funeral) it’s permissible to leave the place without making Birkat HaMazon. <Ref> Yalkut Yacov (Brachot pg 216) </ref> | |||
===Other foods=== | |||
# For foods that have a Bracha Achrona of Boreh Nefashot (drinks besides wine, fruit and vegetables besides Shivat HaMinim), one should make a Bracha Achrona in the place where one ate, however, after the fact (even if one didn’t have in mind to change places) if one goes to another room (even on another floor) no new Bracha is necessary. However, if one leaves the house, a new Bracha is required. <Ref> Yalkut Yosef (vol 3 pg 219, Kitzur S”A 178:9, and 11), Halichot Olam (vol 2 pg 41) </ref> | |||
# Leaving a room and walking to a separate stairwell room is considered an interruption and another Bracha Rishona is required, however, walking up stairs that are in the house isn’t an interruption. <Ref> Yalkut Yosef (vol 3 pg 224 and 233, Kitzur S”A 28) </ref> | |||
# Leaving to the courtyard is considered an interruption and another Bracha Rishona would be required. <Ref> Sh”t Yachava Daat 6:11, Sh”t Yabea Omer O”C 6:27, Sh”t Chazon Ovadyah 1:18, Yalkut Yosef (vol 3 pg 224) </ref> | |||
# If one was eating fruit of the Shivat HaMinim (grapes, figs, pomegranates, olives, dates) or Mezonot and one left the house no new Bracha is needed, however, if one didn’t eat a Kezayit of the fruit before leaving then a new Bracha is needed upon leaving the house. However, if one was eating together with others and some remain in the place one began eating and one left and returned, no new Bracha is needed. <Ref> Yalkut Yosef (vol 3 pg 220, Kitzur S”A 178:10), Halichot Olam (vol 2 pg 41) </ref> | |||
===Eating on the walk=== | |||
# If one eats on the walk or had intent to eat on the way, whether it’s bread, Mezonot, or fruit, one doesn’t need a new Bracha even if one makes a Shinui Makom. <Ref>Yalkut Yosef (vol 3 pg 220-2) </ref>For example, if one made a Shehakol on gum in the house and then walks out of the house, and even if one has more gum a new Shehakol isn’t necessary as long as one had intent originally to eat on the walk. <Ref>Yalkut Yosef (vol 3 pg 223) </ref> | |||
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