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# Even if one can see from house to house (or outside), moving there will be a doubtful Shinui and so it should be avoided, however, if one did move there, no Bracha is required. <Ref>Vezot HaBracha (pg 58 #4, chapter 6) </ref>
# Even if one can see from house to house (or outside), moving there will be a doubtful Shinui and so it should be avoided, however, if one did move there, no Bracha is required. <Ref>Vezot HaBracha (pg 58 #4, chapter 6) </ref>
===Having intention to move===
===Having intention to move===
# If before one starts to eat a bread meal one has in mind to move from place to place, one is allowed to move places and say [[Birkat HaMazon]] in the second place.<ref>Mishna Brurah 178:33 and 40, Shulchan Aruch HaRav 178:5</ref> (This is a common practice by chasidim on Friday nights moving from their meals to the Rebbe's Tisch.)
# If before one starts to eat a bread meal one has in mind to move from place to place, according to Ashkenazim, one is initially allowed to move places and say [[Birkat HaMazon]] in the second place.<ref>Mishna Brurah 178:33 and 40 writes that it is permitted even initially to move from one house to another during a meal if one had intent to do so during one began the meal. Shulchan Aruch HaRav 178:5 agrees. See the Aruch Hashulchan 178:8 who cites this approach but recommends only doing so in the case of a mitzvah need.</ref> (This is a common practice by chasidim on Friday nights moving from their meals to the Rebbe's Tisch.)  
# Amongst Sephardim having intent to move houses during a meal is discouraged and even if one has intent to move during the meal one shouldn't do so initially.<ref>[http://ph.yhb.org.il/10-03-11/ Peninei Halacha] cites the Ben Ish Chai (Bahalotcha n. 2) as saying that having intent to move during the meal is sufficient, however, Yalkut Yosef 178:1 argues. </ref> However, even according to Sephardim, if one started one's meal on the doorstep as if he was ready to leave the house, he may move during the meal since he didn't establish a place for his meal.<ref>Or Letzion 2:12:15</ref>


==If one left friends==
==If one left friends==