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==Lulav and Etrog==
==Lulav and Etrog==
# We do not take the 4 minim on Shemini Atzeret.<ref> Gemara Sukkah 47a. Tosafot d"h Maitav explain that the eighth day of Sukkot differs from the eighth day of Pesach in that the eighth day of Sukkot is Shemini Atzeret, which is a Yom Tov that in many ways enjoys a separate and distinct identity from Sukkot.  Were we to observe the Mitzvot of the seventh day of Sukkot on Shemini Atzeret, we would undermine the integrity of Shemini Atzeret.  We do not take the Lulav on Shemini Atzeret, because the Lulav is ordinarily Muktza.  Thus, taking the Lulav on Shemini Atzeret would make a blatant statement of concern that it is actually the seventh day of Sukkot. The Kesef Mishneh (commenting on Rambam Hilchot Sukkah 6:13) offers a different explanation for why we do not take a Lulav on Shemini Atzeret.  He notes that it is only a rabbinical obligation to take the Lulav on the seventh day of Sukkot.  Biblically, we are only obligated to take the Lulav on the first day of Sukkot if one is outside of the Bait Hamikdash and seven days if one is inside the Bait Hamikdash (see Vayikra 23:40 and Sukkah 41a). The Kesef Mishna argues that the obligations of Yom Tov Sheni do not apply to Lulav because the obligation is only rabbinic in nature</ref>
# We do not take the 4 minim on Shemini Atzeret.<ref> Gemara Sukkah 47a. Tosafot d"h Maitav explain that the eighth day of Sukkot differs from the eighth day of Pesach in that the eighth day of Sukkot is Shemini Atzeret, which is a Yom Tov that in many ways enjoys a separate and distinct identity from Sukkot.  Were we to observe the Mitzvot of the seventh day of Sukkot on Shemini Atzeret, we would undermine the integrity of Shemini Atzeret.  We do not take the Lulav on Shemini Atzeret, because the Lulav is ordinarily Muktza.  Thus, taking the Lulav on Shemini Atzeret would make a blatant statement of concern that it is actually the seventh day of Sukkot. The Kesef Mishneh (commenting on Rambam Hilchot Sukkah 6:13) offers a different explanation for why we do not take a Lulav on Shemini Atzeret.  He notes that it is only a rabbinical obligation to take the Lulav on the seventh day of Sukkot.  biblically, we are only obligated to take the Lulav on the first day of Sukkot if one is outside of the Bait Hamikdash and seven days if one is inside the Bait Hamikdash (see Vayikra 23:40 and Sukkah 41a). The Kesef Mishna argues that the obligations of Yom Tov Sheni do not apply to Lulav because the obligation is only rabbinic in nature</ref>


==Eating and Sleeping in the Sukkah==
==Eating and Sleeping in the Sukkah==
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# It’s permissible to eat or sleep in the [[Sukkah]] before [[Sukkot]] (erev [[Sukkot]]) and it’s not an issue of [[Bal Tosif]]. <Ref> Chazon Ovadyah pg 481 holds that’s there no issue of [[Bal Tosif]] before the mitzvah was done. Interestingly, Piskei Teshuvot 666:1 raises this issue (writes that it’s strange that no one addresses this issue) and concludes leniently and adds that it’s preferable to eat a meal or snack ([[KeBaytzah]] of [[mezonot]]) outside the [[Sukkah]] after [[eating in the Sukkah]] to show that one clearly doesn’t want to add to the mitzvah. </ref>
# It’s permissible to eat or sleep in the [[Sukkah]] before [[Sukkot]] (erev [[Sukkot]]) and it’s not an issue of [[Bal Tosif]]. <Ref> Chazon Ovadyah pg 481 holds that’s there no issue of [[Bal Tosif]] before the mitzvah was done. Interestingly, Piskei Teshuvot 666:1 raises this issue (writes that it’s strange that no one addresses this issue) and concludes leniently and adds that it’s preferable to eat a meal or snack ([[KeBaytzah]] of [[mezonot]]) outside the [[Sukkah]] after [[eating in the Sukkah]] to show that one clearly doesn’t want to add to the mitzvah. </ref>


==Nighttime meal==
==Nighttime Meal==
# Many poskim say that one shouldn't start the meal until it is certainly nightfall (i.e. [[Tzet HaKochavim]]). However, after the fact, if one did start the meal before one should not make the bracha of Leshev BaSukkah if one is [[eating in the Sukkah]]. <ref>Magen Avraham 668:3 quotes the Maharshal who writes that one shouldn't make [[Kiddish]] on Shemini Aseret until it is nightfall so as not to enter into a situation where there is a doubt if one will be able to make the bracha of Leshev BeSukkah. Many achronim including the Levush 668:1, Chaye Adam 153:5, Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 138:4, Aruch HaShulchan 668:6, Kaf HaChaim 668:10, Mishna Brurah 668:7, Nitei Gavriel 85:4, and Chazon Ovadyah (p. 669) agree. Chazon Ovadyah writes that there is even more reason for this law in Israel. [The term that the Magen Avraham uses, "Ad SheTechshach" in context clearly means certain nighttime which is after [[Tzet HaKochavim]]. This term is also used in the Mishna (Pesachim 99b) and there the Mishna Brurah 472:5 explains it to mean [[Tzet HaCochavim]].]</ref>
# Similarly, one should not make [[Kiddush]] on the night of [[Simchat Torah]] before certain nightfall (i.e. [[Tzet HaCochavim]]). <Ref>Kaf HaChaim 668:10 quoting Ben Ish Chai (Vezot HaBrachot #13), Nitei Gavriel 92:2 </ref>
# Because Shemini Aseret is an independent holiday, the beracha of [[Shehecheyanu]] must be recited at [[kiddush]]. <ref> Chazon Ovadia [[Sukkot]] p 451 quoting Masechet Sofrim </ref>
# Because Shemini Aseret is an independent holiday, the beracha of [[Shehecheyanu]] must be recited at [[kiddush]]. <ref> Chazon Ovadia [[Sukkot]] p 451 quoting Masechet Sofrim </ref>
# If someone mistakenly said the [[kiddush]] for [[Sukkot]] instead of the [[kiddush]] for Shemini Aseret, he must return and repeat the [[kiddush]]. <ref> Chazon Ovadia [[Sukkot]] 451-454 </ref>
# If someone mistakenly said the [[kiddush]] for [[Sukkot]] instead of the [[kiddush]] for Shemini Aseret, he must return and repeat the [[kiddush]]. <ref> Chazon Ovadia [[Sukkot]] 451-454 </ref>
# Many poskim say that one shouldn't start the meal until it is certainly nightfall (i.e. [[Tzet HaKochavim]]). However, after the fact, if one did start the meal before one should not make the bracha of Leshev BaSukkah if one is [[eating in the Sukkah]]. <ref>Magen Avraham 668:3 quotes the Maharshal who writes that one shouldn't make [[Kiddish]] on Shemini Aseret until it is nightfall so as not to enter into a situation where there is a doubt if one will be able to make the bracha of Leshev BeSukkah. Many achronim including the Levush 668:1, Chaye Adam 153:5, Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 138:4, Aruch HaShulchan 668:6, Kaf HaChaim 668:10, Mishna Brurah 668:7, Nitei Gavriel 85:4, and Chazon Ovadyah (p. 669) agree. Chazon Ovadyah writes that there is even more reason for this law in Israel. [The term that the Magen Avraham uses, "Ad SheTechshach" in context clearly means certain nighttime which is after [[Tzet HaKochavim]]. This term is also used in the Mishna (Pesachim 99b) and there the Mishna Brurah 472:5 explains it to mean [[Tzet HaCochavim]].]</ref>
# Similarly, one should not make [[Kiddush]] on the night of [[Simchat Torah]] before certain nightfall (i.e. [[Tzet HaCochavim]]). <Ref>Kaf HaChaim 668:10 quoting Ben Ish Chai (Vezot HaBrachot #13), Nitei Gavriel 92:2 </ref>


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