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# A child should not be a shaliach tzibur. If there is a practice to have a child be shaliach tzibur for arvit there is what to rely upon.<ref>The Mishna Megillah 24a establishes that a child shouldn't serve as a shaliach tzibur. Rashi s.v. hu explains that the reason is because he can't fulfill the obligations of the congregation. Rashba 1:239 cites the Raavad who explains that it isn't respectful to the congregation to have a child be the shaliach tzibur. Rashba agrees with Raavad. (Kol Bo 11 has another reason being that a shaliach tzibur requires an ish as it says Yishayahu 50:2 (see Brachot 6b).) The Bet Yosef 53:10 records a minhag for a child to be the shaliach tzibur on Motzei Shabbat. He says that although it isn't proper and the Avudraham and Rabbi Yitzchak De Leon protested the practice the Bet Yosef presents an explanation for it. There is what to rely upon because according to Rashi in arvit where there is no obligation it is acceptable. Also, according to the Raavad the congregation can forgo their honor. The Shulchan Aruch O.C. 53:10 writes that such a practice doesn't have to be protested. Magen Avraham 53:12 and Taz 53:5 agree. Dagul Mirvava explains that there's no difference between Motzei Shabbat and any night of the week besides Friday night when it is more problematic for a child to be shaliach tzibur since he is exempting people who forgot Mashiv Haruach with Mein Sheva.</ref> | # A child should not be a shaliach tzibur. If there is a practice to have a child be shaliach tzibur for arvit there is what to rely upon.<ref>The Mishna Megillah 24a establishes that a child shouldn't serve as a shaliach tzibur. Rashi s.v. hu explains that the reason is because he can't fulfill the obligations of the congregation. Rashba 1:239 cites the Raavad who explains that it isn't respectful to the congregation to have a child be the shaliach tzibur. Rashba agrees with Raavad. (Kol Bo 11 has another reason being that a shaliach tzibur requires an ish as it says Yishayahu 50:2 (see Brachot 6b).) The Bet Yosef 53:10 records a minhag for a child to be the shaliach tzibur on Motzei Shabbat. He says that although it isn't proper and the Avudraham and Rabbi Yitzchak De Leon protested the practice the Bet Yosef presents an explanation for it. There is what to rely upon because according to Rashi in arvit where there is no obligation it is acceptable. Also, according to the Raavad the congregation can forgo their honor. The Shulchan Aruch O.C. 53:10 writes that such a practice doesn't have to be protested. Magen Avraham 53:12 and Taz 53:5 agree. Dagul Mirvava explains that there's no difference between Motzei Shabbat and any night of the week besides Friday night when it is more problematic for a child to be shaliach tzibur since he is exempting people who forgot Mashiv Haruach with Mein Sheva.</ref> | ||
# Someone who is 13 but doesn't have two pubic hairs can't be a shaliach tzibur to fulfill the obligation of others on a | # Someone who is 13 but doesn't have two pubic hairs can't be a shaliach tzibur to fulfill the obligation of others on a biblical level but only for rabbinic obligations.<ref>Mishna Brurah 53:25 citing the Pri Megadim E"A 53:10</ref> | ||
# An impotent can be a shaliach tzibbur if he's 20 and has signs of being impotent.<ref>Shulchan Aruch O.C. 53:9, Mishna Brurah 53:20. See the Mishna Brurah who cites the Maharshal who says that it isn't honorable for the congregation to appoint an impotent as the established shaliach tzibbur.</ref> | # An impotent can be a shaliach tzibbur if he's 20 and has signs of being impotent.<ref>Shulchan Aruch O.C. 53:9, Mishna Brurah 53:20. See the Mishna Brurah who cites the Maharshal who says that it isn't honorable for the congregation to appoint an impotent as the established shaliach tzibbur.</ref> | ||
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# Someone who is wearing clothing that is torn and his shoulders and arms are exposed shouldn't be a shaliach tzibbur.<ref>Megillah 24a, Shulchan Aruch O.C. 53:13, Mishna Brurah 53:39</ref> | # Someone who is wearing clothing that is torn and his shoulders and arms are exposed shouldn't be a shaliach tzibbur.<ref>Megillah 24a, Shulchan Aruch O.C. 53:13, Mishna Brurah 53:39</ref> | ||
==Accepting being Shaliach Tzibbur== | |||
# When a person is asked to be a shaliach tzibur he should at first refuse the honor out of humility, the second time he is asked he should prepare himself to take the honor, and the third time he should accept it.<ref>Brachot 34a, Shulchan Aruch O.C. 53:16</ref> | |||
# Some say that this idea of refusing to be a shaliach tzibur during the week doesn't apply since it isn't such an honor.<ref>Piskei Teshuvot 53:17 citing Teshuvot Vehanagot 1:112, Shevet Hakahati 6:62</ref> | |||
# If the gabbay asked someone to do one part of davening and he refused then if he's asked again for another part of davening it is like he is being asked a second time and should prepare to take the position.<ref>https://ph.yhb.org.il/02-04-03/</ref> | |||
==Shaliach Tzibur for Yamim Noraim== | ==Shaliach Tzibur for Yamim Noraim== | ||
