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* In Nishmat Shabbat 2:478 he says that it isn't a bracha levatala to do kriyat hatorah in ben hashemashot. He cites the Maharam Shik who says this as well. He says that he asked Rav Yisrael Yakov Fischer and he said not to do kriyat hatorah after sunset, but the Betzel Chachma allowed it. He says that if there's not enough time for both kriyat hatorah and shemona esrei before sunset, it is better to do kriyat hatorah during the day since some say it is a bracha levatala during ben hashemashot and shemona esrei during ben hashemashot is certainly not a bracha levatala, either it is mincha or it is maariv or a nedava. Shaarei Chaim 377:9 says that you can do kriyat hatorah for 30 minutes after sunset based on Rabbenu Tam. He cites Rivevot Efraim 5:290 quoting Rav Debilisky that kriyat hatorah after sunset is a bracha levatala.</ref> | * In Nishmat Shabbat 2:478 he says that it isn't a bracha levatala to do kriyat hatorah in ben hashemashot. He cites the Maharam Shik who says this as well. He says that he asked Rav Yisrael Yakov Fischer and he said not to do kriyat hatorah after sunset, but the Betzel Chachma allowed it. He says that if there's not enough time for both kriyat hatorah and shemona esrei before sunset, it is better to do kriyat hatorah during the day since some say it is a bracha levatala during ben hashemashot and shemona esrei during ben hashemashot is certainly not a bracha levatala, either it is mincha or it is maariv or a nedava. Shaarei Chaim 377:9 says that you can do kriyat hatorah for 30 minutes after sunset based on Rabbenu Tam. He cites Rivevot Efraim 5:290 quoting Rav Debilisky that kriyat hatorah after sunset is a bracha levatala.</ref> | ||
===Which Takes Precedence Kriyat Hatorah or Shemona Esrei If Short on Time?=== | ===Which Takes Precedence Kriyat Hatorah or Shemona Esrei If Short on Time?=== | ||
#If there is only ten minutes until sunset, it is more important to do Shemona Esrei and Kriyat Hatorah rather than do the opposite.<ref>Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach in Shulchan Shlomo 292:1 writes that if there's only ten minutes before sunset and they can either do kriyat hatorah or shemona esrei they should do shemona esrei. He doesn't explain or cite sources. Ishei Yisrael ch. 38 fnt. 91 quotes this from Alehu Lo Yibol. Similarly, Nishmat Shabbat 2:480 favors picking shemona esrei over kriyat hatorah if you have to choose because the Magen Avraham 143:8 quoting the Maharam Lublin writes that kriyat hatorah of shabbat mincha isn't such an obligation, it is just to stop people from wasting time (yoshvei kranot). He quotes Zachor lavraham that the rebbe from Toldot Aharon skipped kriyat hatorah on shabbat mincha altogether in order to say shemona esrei before sunset. Emek Bracha (kriyat hatorah 4) isn't sure about this. Dor Hamelakim 292 v 2 p. 985 quotes Shulchan Shlomo 292:1, Kovetz Halachot Shabbat v. 1 ch. 18, Nishmat Shabbat 292:480, and Piskei Teshuvot 292:3 as holding that Shemona Esrei of mincha takes precedence over kriyat hatorah. Similarly, Ishei Yisrael ch. 38 fnt. 91 quotes Imrei Yosher 2:171 that if there's only time for an individual to hear kriyat hatorah or daven before the end of the zman tefillah he should daven on time and miss hearing kriyat hatorah. However, Avnei Choshen v. 3 p. 447 writes that | #If there is only ten minutes until sunset, it is more important to do Shemona Esrei and Kriyat Hatorah rather than do the opposite.<ref>Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach in Shulchan Shlomo 292:1 writes that if there's only ten minutes before sunset and they can either do kriyat hatorah or shemona esrei they should do shemona esrei. He doesn't explain or cite sources. Ishei Yisrael ch. 38 fnt. 91 quotes this from Alehu Lo Yibol. Similarly, Nishmat Shabbat 2:480 favors picking shemona esrei over kriyat hatorah if you have to choose because the Magen Avraham 143:8 quoting the Maharam Lublin writes that kriyat hatorah of shabbat mincha isn't such an obligation, it is just to stop people from wasting time (yoshvei kranot). He quotes Zachor lavraham that the rebbe from Toldot Aharon skipped kriyat hatorah on shabbat mincha altogether in order to say shemona esrei before sunset. Emek Bracha (kriyat hatorah 4) isn't sure about this. Dor Hamelakim 292 v 2 p. 985 quotes Shulchan Shlomo 292:1, Kovetz Halachot Shabbat v. 1 ch. 18, Nishmat Shabbat 292:480, and Piskei Teshuvot 292:3 as holding that Shemona Esrei of mincha takes precedence over kriyat hatorah. Similarly, Ishei Yisrael ch. 38 fnt. 91 quotes Imrei Yosher 2:171 that if there's only time for an individual to hear kriyat hatorah or daven before the end of the zman tefillah he should daven on time and miss hearing kriyat hatorah. However, Avnei Choshen v. 3 p. 447 writes that an individual who can either go to hear kriyat hatorah in a minyan before sunset (and that minyan is going to daven mincha after sunset) or go to daven shemona esrei with a minyan before sunset, it is better to hear kriyat hatorah.</ref> Some poskim opine for doing both kriyat hatorah and shemona esrei and just doing one of them after sunset.<ref>Bear Eliyahu OC 1:34:2 writes that it is better to do kriyat hatorah even if that means doing shemona esrei after sunset. Also, note Dirshu 293:2 quotes Mekor Chaim 124:2 that if there's not enough time for shemona esrei and kriyat hatorah, do shemona esrei first and then kriyat hatorah. </ref> | ||
===Which Takes Precedence Kriyat Hatorah or Seuda Shelishit?=== | ===Which Takes Precedence Kriyat Hatorah or Seuda Shelishit?=== | ||
#If someone can either go to shul to hear kriyat hatorah and miss the time to eat seuda shelishit or eat seuda shelishit and miss kriyat hatorah, it is better to eat seuda shelishit and skip kriyat hatorah.<ref>Vezot Hatorah p. 13 quotes Dinim Vhanhagot Chazon Ish that it is better to skip kriyat hatorah and eat seuda shelishit than to hear kriyat hatorah and skip seuda shelishit.</ref> | #If someone can either go to shul to hear kriyat hatorah and miss the time to eat seuda shelishit or eat seuda shelishit and miss kriyat hatorah, it is better to eat seuda shelishit and skip kriyat hatorah.<ref>Vezot Hatorah p. 13 quotes Dinim Vhanhagot Chazon Ish that it is better to skip kriyat hatorah and eat seuda shelishit than to hear kriyat hatorah and skip seuda shelishit.</ref> | ||
