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# There is a dispute if a person can fulfill Sefirat HaOmer by listening to someone else count. Therefore, one should avoid doing so. However, one may fulfill the bracha by listening to someone else count.<Ref>There is a major dispute amongst the Rishonim if [[Shomea KeOneh]] is operable by Sefirat HaOmer. The Ramban (Pesachim 7a s.v. VeAni) implies that you can't Sefirat HaOmer with [[Shomea KeOneh]], since in theory we should have said the bracha with a lamed as it can't be fulfilled by someone else. Rashi (Menachot 65b) also seems to say that Shomea KeOneh doesn't work since the Torah wanted each and every person to count. However, the Rashba 1:458 implies that the congregation can fulfill Sefirat HaOmer with Shomea KeOnah. The Beiur Halacha 489 s.v. UMitzvah quotes the Maharitz Geyitz and Orchot Chaim as saying that Shomea KeOnah is effective for Sefirat HaOmer. In conclusion, the Beiur Halacha writes that one should avoid using Shomea KeOnah for Sefirat HaOmer. Nonetheless, Mishna Brurah 489:5 points out that there's no dispute that Shomea KeOnah is effective for the bracha.</ref> | # There is a dispute if a person can fulfill Sefirat HaOmer by listening to someone else count. Therefore, one should avoid doing so. However, one may fulfill the bracha by listening to someone else count.<Ref>There is a major dispute amongst the Rishonim if [[Shomea KeOneh]] is operable by Sefirat HaOmer. The Ramban (Pesachim 7a s.v. VeAni) implies that you can't Sefirat HaOmer with [[Shomea KeOneh]], since in theory we should have said the bracha with a lamed as it can't be fulfilled by someone else. Rashi (Menachot 65b) also seems to say that Shomea KeOneh doesn't work since the Torah wanted each and every person to count. However, the Rashba 1:458 implies that the congregation can fulfill Sefirat HaOmer with Shomea KeOnah. The Beiur Halacha 489 s.v. UMitzvah quotes the Maharitz Geyitz and Orchot Chaim as saying that Shomea KeOnah is effective for Sefirat HaOmer. In conclusion, the Beiur Halacha writes that one should avoid using Shomea KeOnah for Sefirat HaOmer. Nonetheless, Mishna Brurah 489:5 points out that there's no dispute that Shomea KeOnah is effective for the bracha.</ref> | ||
==When to | ==When to Count Sefira== | ||
# According to most poskim, it is correct to wait until Tzet Hakochavim in order to count [[sefirat haomer]]; however, one fulfills his obligation by counting after sunset. <Ref> | # According to most poskim, it is correct to wait until Tzet Hakochavim in order to count [[sefirat haomer]]; however, one fulfills his obligation by counting after sunset. <Ref> | ||
* Tosfot (Menachot 66a s.v. zecher) has one opinion who says that one may count sefira during [[Bein HaShemashot]] since sefira is only derabbanan. Rosh (Pesachim 10:40) and Tur 489:1 agree. However, the Ran (Pesachim 28a) argues that it’s not proper to enter a safek initially. Similarly, Rambam (Temidin UMusafin 7:22) rules that sefira should be counted at night. | * Tosfot (Menachot 66a s.v. zecher) has one opinion who says that one may count sefira during [[Bein HaShemashot]] since sefira is only derabbanan. Rosh (Pesachim 10:40) and Tur 489:1 agree. However, the Ran (Pesachim 28a) argues that it’s not proper to enter a safek initially. Similarly, Rambam (Temidin UMusafin 7:22) rules that sefira should be counted at night. | ||
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==Eating before counting the Omer== | ==Eating before counting the Omer== | ||
# From a half hour before the time for sefira (according to some poskim, this refers to sunset, while others maintain that it refers to Tzet Hakochavim), one shouldn’t eat a meal until he counts sefira. More than a [[KeBaytzah]] of bread is considered a meal, however, even a lot of fruit isn’t a meal. There is a dispute whether [[Pas HaBah Bekisnin]] is | # From a half hour before the time for sefira (according to some poskim, this refers to sunset, while others maintain that it refers to Tzet Hakochavim), one shouldn’t eat a meal until he counts sefira. More than a [[KeBaytzah]] of bread is considered a meal, however, even a lot of fruit isn’t a meal. There is a dispute whether [[Pas HaBah Bekisnin]] is considered like bread for this halacha. Nonetheless, many poskim defend the minhag to eat before sefira if one regularly attends a later [[minyan]].<ref> | ||
* Rama 489:4 writes that from the time of sefira, it is forbidden to eat until one counts. Mishna Brurah 489:23 writes that really the prohibition begins from a half hour before Tzet Hakochavim, while the S”A HaRav 489:17 and Kaf HaChaim 489:64 hold that the prohibition begins from a half hour before sunset. | * Rama 489:4 writes that from the time of sefira, it is forbidden to eat until one counts. Mishna Brurah 489:23 writes that really the prohibition begins from a half hour before Tzet Hakochavim, while the S”A HaRav 489:17 and Kaf HaChaim 489:64 hold that the prohibition begins from a half hour before sunset. | ||
* Kaf HaChaim 489:66 clarifies that it is forbidden only to eat a meal that fits the criteria given by S”A 232:3, meaning more than a KeBeitzah of bread; fruit, even in large quantities, is not considered a meal. Yalkut Yosef 489:43 and Hilchot Chag BeChag (p. 16) write that Pat HaBah Bekisnin is the same as bread for this halacha; Nitei Gavriel 26:5 disagrees. | * Kaf HaChaim 489:66 clarifies that it is forbidden only to eat a meal that fits the criteria given by S”A 232:3, meaning more than a KeBeitzah of bread; fruit, even in large quantities, is not considered a meal. Yalkut Yosef 489:43 and Hilchot Chag BeChag (p. 16) write that Pat HaBah Bekisnin is the same as bread for this halacha; Nitei Gavriel 26:5 disagrees. | ||
