Anonymous

Required Amount of Matzah and Wine for the Seder: Difference between revisions

From Halachipedia
no edit summary
No edit summary
No edit summary
Line 10: Line 10:
## Rabbi Mordechai Willig (“The Shiurim of Seder Night” min 1-10, and Pesach To-Go 5771 p. 60) holds that the size of an egg with its shell is 50 cc, which would result in a Revi’it of 2.5 fl oz.  
## Rabbi Mordechai Willig (“The Shiurim of Seder Night” min 1-10, and Pesach To-Go 5771 p. 60) holds that the size of an egg with its shell is 50 cc, which would result in a Revi’it of 2.5 fl oz.  
## Rav Ovadia Yosef (Chazon Ovadia p. 16) writes that a Revi’it is 2.7 fl oz (81cc). This is based on the measurements of Rav Chaim Noeh (Shiurei Tzion p. 69) with slight adjustments.  
## Rav Ovadia Yosef (Chazon Ovadia p. 16) writes that a Revi’it is 2.7 fl oz (81cc). This is based on the measurements of Rav Chaim Noeh (Shiurei Tzion p. 69) with slight adjustments.  
## Rabbi Shimon Eider (Halachos of Pesach p. 229) writes that according to his measurements, the Revi’it is 3 fl oz. Rabbi Dovid Feinstein (Kol Dodi Haggadah, 5730, p. 4) writes that based on measuring large eggs a Revi’it is fl 3.3 oz. In the 5745 edition, however, he says that the Revi’it is fl 2.9 oz. See also Rabbi Yisroel Bodner (Halachos of K’zayis p. 24 n. 24) who writes that he spoke to Rav Dovid Feinstein about how he arrived at his measurements and was told that his father, Rav Moshe Feinstein, didn't measure it himself but rather a student measured 'large' eggs and came up with 2.2 fl oz per egg. Rav Dovid added, if he, Rav Bodner, arrived at a smaller measure with his own measurements he should follow that. Rav Bodner writes that according to his measurements the average egg was 55cc (1.92 fl oz). Nonetheless, in terms of Bracha Achrona Rav Bodner (p. 26) follows the measurements of Rav Chaim Noeh who measured the average egg to be 57cc. </ref>
## The Laws of [[Pesach]] by Rabbi Avraham Blumenkrantz (5771 pg 111) writes that since the four cups are Derabbanan one may use a cup that holds 2.9 oz.
## Rav Yisrael Belsky (OU Pre-Pesach Webcast 5771, min 37-8), who recommended having a Revi’it of 4.3 fl oz.
## Rabbi Shimon Eider (Halachos of Pesach p. 229) writes that according to his measurements, the Revi’it is 3 fl oz. <ref>Halachos of [[Pesach]] (Rabbi Shimon Eider, Chapter 20, Sec D 5, pg 228-230) writes that since the four cups are Derabbanan one may have the smaller measurement which is measuring by eggs and not by thumbs and according to his calculation a Reviyit should be 3 oz and if one is unable to have a Reviyit one fulfills one's obligation with a majority of a Reviyit. See also Weekly Halacha (by Rabbi Neustadt, http://www.torah.org/advanced/weekly-halacha/5760/tazria.html) who writes that one may rely on the view of Rav Chaim Noeh who holds that 3 oz is sufficient being that the cups of wine are Derabbanan. </ref>
## Rav Chaim Kanievsky (Shiurin Shel Torah p. 65) writes that according to the rulings of the Chazon Ish, a Revi’it is 5.0 fl oz.
## Rabbi Dovid Feinstein (Kol Dodi Haggadah, 5730, p. 4) writes that based on measuring large eggs a Revi’it is fl 3.3 oz. <ref>In the 5745 edition, however, he says that the Revi’it is fl 2.9 oz. See also Rabbi Yisroel Bodner (Halachos of K’zayis p. 24 n. 24) who writes that he spoke to Rav Dovid Feinstein about how he arrived at his measurements and was told that his father, Rav Moshe Feinstein, didn't measure it himself but rather a student measured 'large' eggs and came up with 2.2 fl oz per egg. Rav Dovid added, if he, Rav Bodner, arrived at a smaller measure with his own measurements he should follow that. Rav Bodner writes that according to his measurements the average egg was 55cc (1.92 fl oz). Nonetheless, in terms of Bracha Achrona Rav Bodner (p. 26) follows the measurements of Rav Chaim Noeh who measured the average egg to be 57cc. </ref>
# According to Ashkenazim, one should preferably have an entire Reviyit which is 3 oz (85 grams), however, if that's difficult one may just have majority of a Reviyit which is 1.51 oz (43 grams). <ref>Haggadah Kol Dodi (Rabbi Dovid Feinstein, 5730, pg 4) writes that the [[Reviyit]] for the four cups (using the method of measuring a large egg) should be 3.3oz. Halachos of [[Pesach]] (Rabbi Shimon Eider, Chapter 20, Sec D 5, pg 228-230) writes that since the four cups are Derabbanan one may have the smaller measurement which is measuring by eggs and not by thumbs and according to his calculation a Reviyit should be 3 oz and if one is unable to have a Reviyit one fulfills one's obligation with a majority of a Reviyit. The Laws of [[Pesach]] by Rabbi Blumenkrantz (5771 pg 111) writes that since the four cups are Derabbanan one may use a cup that holds 2.9 oz. See also Weekly Halacha (by Rabbi Neustadt, http://www.torah.org/advanced/weekly-halacha/5760/tazria.html) who writes that one may rely on the view of Rav Chaim Noeh who holds that 3 oz is sufficient being that the cups of wine are Derabbanan. See also
## Rav Yisrael Belsky (OU Pre-Pesach Webcast 5771, min 37-8), who recommended having a Revi’it of 4.3 fl oz. <ref>Rav Yisrael Belsky on [http://www.ou.org/torah/article/oukosher_pre-pesach_webcast_5771 OU Pre-Pesach Webcast 5771] between minutes 37 and 38</ref>
Rav Yisrael Belsky on [http://www.ou.org/torah/article/oukosher_pre-pesach_webcast_5771 OU Pre-Pesach Webcast 5771] between minutes 37 and 38 who says that it's acceptable to consider a Reviyit 4.3 oz and it’s preferable to consider it around 5.8. See also Halachos of [[Pesach]] (pg 229) who writes that the Kiddish cup of Rav Yisrael Salanter was 4.1 oz at it's full capacity and the cup of the Chafetz Chaim was 5 oz. </ref>
## Rav Chaim Kanievsky (Shiurin Shel Torah p. 65) writes that according to the rulings of the Chazon Ish, a Revi’it is 5.0 fl oz. <ref>See also Halachos of [[Pesach]] (pg 229) who writes that the Kiddish cup of Rav Yisrael Salanter was 4.1 oz at it's full capacity and the cup of the Chafetz Chaim was 5 oz. </ref>
 
===Someone who is diabetic===
# If a person is a diabetic and can’t have a lot of wine, the absolute minimum amount is 1.5 oz and a drop more and if one can’t have eat that much one doesn’t have to drink the wine. However, one should consult with one’s doctor who is Torah observant. <Ref> Rav Yisrael Belsky on [http://www.ou.org/torah/article/oukosher_pre-pesach_webcast_5771 OU Pre-Pesach Webcast 5771] between minutes 51 and 52:30 </ref>
# If a person is a diabetic and can’t have a lot of wine, the absolute minimum amount is 1.5 oz and a drop more and if one can’t have eat that much one doesn’t have to drink the wine. However, one should consult with one’s doctor who is Torah observant. <Ref> Rav Yisrael Belsky on [http://www.ou.org/torah/article/oukosher_pre-pesach_webcast_5771 OU Pre-Pesach Webcast 5771] between minutes 51 and 52:30 </ref>