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===How much must one drink===
===How much must one drink===
# According to Sephardim, one should preferably drink an entire Reviyit which is 2.86 oz (81 grams), however, if that's difficult one may just have majority of a Reviyit which is 1.44 oz (41 grams). <ref> Chazon Ovadyah (pg 16) </ref>
# According to Sephardim, one should preferably drink an entire Reviyit which is 2.86 oz (81 grams), however, if that's difficult one may just have majority of a Reviyit which is 1.44 oz (41 grams). <ref> Chazon Ovadyah (pg 16) </ref>
# According to Ashkenazim, one should preferably have an entire Reviyit which is 3 oz (85 grams), however, if that's difficult one may just have majority of a Reviyit which is 1.51 oz (43 grams). <ref>Haggadah Kol Dodi (Rabbi Dovid Feinstein, 5730, pg 4) writes that the [[Reviyit]] for the four cups (using the method of measuring a large egg) should be 3.3oz. Halachos of Pesach (Rabbi Shimon Eider, Chapter 20, Sec D 5, pg 228-230) writes that since the four cups are Derabbanan one may have the smaller measurement which is measuring by eggs and not by thumbs and according to his calculation a Reviyit should be 3 oz and if one is unable to have a Reviyit one fulfills one's obligation with a majority of a Reviyit. The Laws of Pesach by Rabbi Blumenkrantz (5771 pg 111) writes that since the four cups are Derabbanan one may use a cup that holds 2.9 oz. See also Weekly Halacha (by Rabbi Neustadt, http://www.torah.org/advanced/weekly-halacha/5760/tazria.html) who writes that one may rely on the view of Rav Chaim Noeh who holds that 3 oz is sufficient being that the cups of wine are Derabbanan. See also  
# According to Ashkenazim, one should preferably have an entire Reviyit which is 3 oz (85 grams), however, if that's difficult one may just have majority of a Reviyit which is 1.51 oz (43 grams). <ref>Haggadah Kol Dodi (Rabbi Dovid Feinstein, 5730, pg 4) writes that the [[Reviyit]] for the four cups (using the method of measuring a large egg) should be 3.3oz. Halachos of [[Pesach]] (Rabbi Shimon Eider, Chapter 20, Sec D 5, pg 228-230) writes that since the four cups are Derabbanan one may have the smaller measurement which is measuring by eggs and not by thumbs and according to his calculation a Reviyit should be 3 oz and if one is unable to have a Reviyit one fulfills one's obligation with a majority of a Reviyit. The Laws of [[Pesach]] by Rabbi Blumenkrantz (5771 pg 111) writes that since the four cups are Derabbanan one may use a cup that holds 2.9 oz. See also Weekly Halacha (by Rabbi Neustadt, http://www.torah.org/advanced/weekly-halacha/5760/tazria.html) who writes that one may rely on the view of Rav Chaim Noeh who holds that 3 oz is sufficient being that the cups of wine are Derabbanan. See also  
Rav Yisrael Belsky on [http://www.ou.org/torah/article/oukosher_pre-pesach_webcast_5771 OU Pre-Pesach Webcast 5771] between minutes 37 and 38 who says that it's acceptable to consider a Reviyit 4.3 oz and it’s preferable to consider it around 5.8. See also Halachos of Pesach (pg 229) who writes that the Kiddish cup of Rav Yisrael Salanter was 4.1 oz at it's full capacity and the cup of the Chafetz Chaim was 5 oz. </ref>
Rav Yisrael Belsky on [http://www.ou.org/torah/article/oukosher_pre-pesach_webcast_5771 OU Pre-Pesach Webcast 5771] between minutes 37 and 38 who says that it's acceptable to consider a Reviyit 4.3 oz and it’s preferable to consider it around 5.8. See also Halachos of [[Pesach]] (pg 229) who writes that the Kiddish cup of Rav Yisrael Salanter was 4.1 oz at it's full capacity and the cup of the Chafetz Chaim was 5 oz. </ref>
# It is preferable to drink the majority of the cup in one drinking. <ref>Magen Avraham 472:11 writes that it's preferable to have the cup of wine in one drinking. Haggadah Kol Dodi (Rabbi Dovid Feinstein, 5730, pg 4) writes that this only applies to the majority of the cup and not the whole cup because a person can't swallow more than a KeBaytzah.</ref>
# It is preferable to drink the majority of the cup in one drinking. <ref>Magen Avraham 472:11 writes that it's preferable to have the cup of wine in one drinking. Haggadah Kol Dodi (Rabbi Dovid Feinstein, 5730, pg 4) writes that this only applies to the majority of the cup and not the whole cup because a person can't swallow more than a KeBaytzah.</ref>
==Someone who is diabetic==
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* Despite the questions of the achronim, the Rosh’s view is accepted by most acharonim, including Magen Avraham 475:4, S”A HaRav (Piskei HaSeder), Kitzur S”A 199:5, Aruch HaShulchan 475:5, and Chazon Ovadyah (p. 65). See, however, Orchot Rabbenu (vol 2, p. 70) who writes that Chazon Ish personally ate only one [[Kezayit]] because he held the halacha doesn’t follow the Rosh.
* Despite the questions of the achronim, the Rosh’s view is accepted by most acharonim, including Magen Avraham 475:4, S”A HaRav (Piskei HaSeder), Kitzur S”A 199:5, Aruch HaShulchan 475:5, and Chazon Ovadyah (p. 65). See, however, Orchot Rabbenu (vol 2, p. 70) who writes that Chazon Ish personally ate only one [[Kezayit]] because he held the halacha doesn’t follow the Rosh.
* For Korech, Mishna Brurah 475:16 writes that a [[Kezayit]] of matza is needed. Kitzur S”A 199:7, Nitai Gavriel 59:1, and Chazon Ovadyah (p. 100) agree.
* For Korech, Mishna Brurah 475:16 writes that a [[Kezayit]] of matza is needed. Kitzur S”A 199:7, Nitai Gavriel 59:1, and Chazon Ovadyah (p. 100) agree.
* Regarding Afikomen, S”A 477:1 rules that one should eat one [[Kezayit]] of matza. Darkei Moshe 477:2 quotes the Maharil that it is preferable to have 2 kezaytim. Magen Avraham 477:1 explains that one is in commemoration of the Korban Pesach and one for the matza eaten with it. Many achronim quote the Maharil including the Taz 477:1, Kitzur S”A 119:8, Mishna Brurah 477:1, Kaf HaChaim 477:1, and Chazon Ovadyah (p. 106).</ref>
* Regarding Afikomen, S”A 477:1 rules that one should eat one [[Kezayit]] of matza. Darkei Moshe 477:2 quotes the Maharil that it is preferable to have 2 kezaytim. Magen Avraham 477:1 explains that one is in commemoration of the Korban [[Pesach]] and one for the matza eaten with it. Many achronim quote the Maharil including the Taz 477:1, Kitzur S”A 119:8, Mishna Brurah 477:1, Kaf HaChaim 477:1, and Chazon Ovadyah (p. 106).</ref>
# For Motzi-Matza, many authorities write that if the matzot of the head of the house don’t suffice for 2 kezaytim for each person, one fulfills his mitzvah by eating a bit from the whole matza and 1 other [[Kezayit]] (and not 2).<ref> Rav Shlomo Zalman in Halichot Shlomo 9:40 rules that if the head of the house’s three matzot do not suffice for the [[Kezayit]] for each person, each person should just have a piece from the whole matza and eat a single [[Kezayit]] of matza from other shemura matza. He explains that according to the Prisha, if one isn’t eating from the head of house’s matzot, there’s no safek upon which matza one makes Al Achilat Matza, so there is no need to eat an extra kezayit. Chazon Ovadyah (p. 65), Haggadah Moadim UZmanim (p. 97), and Seder HaAruch (p 455) quoting Rav Elyashiv agree. See also Haggadah Kol Dodi 14:3 and Sh"t Igrot Moshe 5:16.</ref>
# For Motzi-Matza, many authorities write that if the matzot of the head of the house don’t suffice for 2 kezaytim for each person, one fulfills his mitzvah by eating a bit from the whole matza and 1 other [[Kezayit]] (and not 2).<ref> Rav Shlomo Zalman in Halichot Shlomo 9:40 rules that if the head of the house’s three matzot do not suffice for the [[Kezayit]] for each person, each person should just have a piece from the whole matza and eat a single [[Kezayit]] of matza from other shemura matza. He explains that according to the Prisha, if one isn’t eating from the head of house’s matzot, there’s no safek upon which matza one makes Al Achilat Matza, so there is no need to eat an extra kezayit. Chazon Ovadyah (p. 65), Haggadah Moadim UZmanim (p. 97), and Seder HaAruch (p 455) quoting Rav Elyashiv agree. See also Haggadah Kol Dodi 14:3 and Sh"t Igrot Moshe 5:16.</ref>
# Practically, how large in a [[Kezayit]] in terms of the amount of Matzah one should eat?  
# Practically, how large in a [[Kezayit]] in terms of the amount of Matzah one should eat?  
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* The Tzlach (Pesachim 116) holds that the modern day eggs are half the size of those in the days of Chazal. However, Rav Noeh (Shiurei Torah Shaar 3) argues that the modern day eggs have not changed from the days of Chazal. Mishna Brurah 486:1 writes that for the mitzvah deoritta of matza, one should follow the stringent view of the Tzlach. Even though Vezot HaBracha (pg 6, Birur 1, pg 221) quotes Rav Elyashiv and Rav Shlomo Zalman saying that for Bracha Achrona the widely accepted measurement of the Kezayit is according to Rav Chaim Noeh, in regards to the mitzvah of eating matza, Rav Shlomo Zalman writes in Halichot Shlomo 9:13 that one should be strict for the size of the Kezayit of the Chazon Ish which are based on the opinion of the Tzalach.  
* The Tzlach (Pesachim 116) holds that the modern day eggs are half the size of those in the days of Chazal. However, Rav Noeh (Shiurei Torah Shaar 3) argues that the modern day eggs have not changed from the days of Chazal. Mishna Brurah 486:1 writes that for the mitzvah deoritta of matza, one should follow the stringent view of the Tzlach. Even though Vezot HaBracha (pg 6, Birur 1, pg 221) quotes Rav Elyashiv and Rav Shlomo Zalman saying that for Bracha Achrona the widely accepted measurement of the Kezayit is according to Rav Chaim Noeh, in regards to the mitzvah of eating matza, Rav Shlomo Zalman writes in Halichot Shlomo 9:13 that one should be strict for the size of the Kezayit of the Chazon Ish which are based on the opinion of the Tzalach.  
* Practically, how much matza is that? The following measurements are in regards to a piece of the average machine matza.  
* Practically, how much matza is that? The following measurements are in regards to a piece of the average machine matza.  
** (1) Halachos of Pesach (p. 242) quotes Haggadat Kol Dodi (Rav Dovid Feinstein) that for Motzi-Matza, one should eat 6.25”x7” (about one matzah), for Korech 4”x7” (about 2/3 of a matza) and for Afikomen 6.25”x7” (about one matza).  
** (1) Halachos of [[Pesach]] (p. 242) quotes Haggadat Kol Dodi (Rav Dovid Feinstein) that for Motzi-Matza, one should eat 6.25”x7” (about one matzah), for Korech 4”x7” (about 2/3 of a matza) and for Afikomen 6.25”x7” (about one matza).  
** (2) Rabbi Bodner in Halachos of K’zayis (p. 93) quotes Rav Moshe Feinstein saying that 43.5cc (about 2/3 of a matza) is sufficient for both kezaytim of Motzi-Matza. Rav Yisrael Belsky on [http://www.ou.org/torah/article/oukosher_pre-pesach_webcast_5771 OU Pre-Pesach Webcast 5771] between minutes 30:30 and 37 endorsed this opinion. He added that if one is able, it's preferable to have the larger amount similar to the Chazon Ish's [[Kezayit]]. [Rabbi Bonder (pg 92-95) explains that if one is using hand made matzah it depends on how thick the matzah if which can be determined by seeing how many matzah are in a pound. If there's 9 to a pound, it's thin, 7.5 to a pound medium, and 6 to a pound thick. For Motzei Matzah, if it's thin, use slightly more than half, if it's medium, use slightly more than two fifths, if it's thick, a little more than a third. For Korech, if it's thin, use less than a third, if it's medium use a quarter, and if it's thick use a fifth. For Afikomen, if it's thin, use two fifths, if it's medium use less than a third, if it's thick use slightly more than a quarter.]
** (2) Rabbi Bodner in Halachos of K’zayis (p. 93) quotes Rav Moshe Feinstein saying that 43.5cc (about 2/3 of a matza) is sufficient for both kezaytim of Motzi-Matza. Rav Yisrael Belsky on [http://www.ou.org/torah/article/oukosher_pre-pesach_webcast_5771 OU Pre-Pesach Webcast 5771] between minutes 30:30 and 37 endorsed this opinion. He added that if one is able, it's preferable to have the larger amount similar to the Chazon Ish's [[Kezayit]]. [Rabbi Bonder (pg 92-95) explains that if one is using hand made matzah it depends on how thick the matzah if which can be determined by seeing how many matzah are in a pound. If there's 9 to a pound, it's thin, 7.5 to a pound medium, and 6 to a pound thick. For Motzei Matzah, if it's thin, use slightly more than half, if it's medium, use slightly more than two fifths, if it's thick, a little more than a third. For Korech, if it's thin, use less than a third, if it's medium use a quarter, and if it's thick use a fifth. For Afikomen, if it's thin, use two fifths, if it's medium use less than a third, if it's thick use slightly more than a quarter.]
** (3) Rav Mordechai Willig (Pesach To-Go, Nisan 5771, p. 60) rules that a [[Kezayit]] is 22.5cc (less than 2/5 of a Matza). See also Am Mordechai Moadim (p. 152).  
** (3) Rav Mordechai Willig (Pesach To-Go, Nisan 5771, p. 60) rules that a [[Kezayit]] is 22.5cc (less than 2/5 of a Matza). See also Am Mordechai Moadim (p. 152).  
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