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* For [[Korech]], Mishna Brurah 475:16 writes that a [[Kezayit]] of [[matza]] is needed. Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 199:7, Nitei Gavriel 59:1, and Chazon Ovadyah (p. 100) agree. | * For [[Korech]], Mishna Brurah 475:16 writes that a [[Kezayit]] of [[matza]] is needed. Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 199:7, Nitei Gavriel 59:1, and Chazon Ovadyah (p. 100) agree. | ||
* Regarding [[Afikomen]], Shulchan Aruch O.C. 477:1 rules that one should eat one [[Kezayit]] of [[matza]]. Darkei Moshe 477:2 quotes the Maharil that it is preferable to have 2 kezaytim. Magen Avraham 477:1 explains that one is in commemoration of the Korban [[Pesach]] and one for the [[matza]] eaten with it. Many achronim quote the Maharil including the Taz 477:1, Kitzur S”A 119:8, Mishna Brurah 477:1, Kaf HaChaim 477:1, and Chazon Ovadyah (p. 106).</ref> | * Regarding [[Afikomen]], Shulchan Aruch O.C. 477:1 rules that one should eat one [[Kezayit]] of [[matza]]. Darkei Moshe 477:2 quotes the Maharil that it is preferable to have 2 kezaytim. Magen Avraham 477:1 explains that one is in commemoration of the Korban [[Pesach]] and one for the [[matza]] eaten with it. Many achronim quote the Maharil including the Taz 477:1, Kitzur S”A 119:8, Mishna Brurah 477:1, Kaf HaChaim 477:1, and Chazon Ovadyah (p. 106).</ref> | ||
# For Motzi-[[Matza]], many authorities write that if the matzot of the head of the house don’t suffice for 2 kezaytim for each person, one fulfills his mitzvah by eating a bit from the whole [[matza]] and 1 other [[Kezayit]] (and not 2).<ref> Rav Shlomo Zalman in Halichot Shlomo 9:40 rules that if the head of the house’s three matzot do not suffice for the [[Kezayit]] for each person, each person should just have a piece from the whole [[matza]] and eat a single [[Kezayit]] of [[matza]] from other shemura [[matza]]. He explains that according to the Prisha, if one isn’t eating from the head of house’s matzot, there’s no safek upon which [[matza]] one makes Al Achilat [[Matza]], so there is no need to eat an extra [[kezayit]]. Chazon Ovadyah (p. 65), Haggadah Moadim UZmanim (p. 97), and | # For Motzi-[[Matza]], many authorities write that if the matzot of the head of the house don’t suffice for 2 kezaytim for each person, one fulfills his mitzvah by eating a bit from the whole [[matza]] and 1 other [[Kezayit]] (and not 2).<ref> Rav Shlomo Zalman in Halichot Shlomo 9:40 rules that if the head of the house’s three matzot do not suffice for the [[Kezayit]] for each person, each person should just have a piece from the whole [[matza]] and eat a single [[Kezayit]] of [[matza]] from other shemura [[matza]]. He explains that according to the Prisha, if one isn’t eating from the head of house’s matzot, there’s no safek upon which [[matza]] one makes Al Achilat [[Matza]], so there is no need to eat an extra [[kezayit]]. Chazon Ovadyah (p. 65), Or Letzion 3:15:12, Haggadah Moadim UZmanim (p. 97), and Seder HaAruch (p 455) quoting Rav Elyashiv agree. Rav Dovid Feinstein in Haggadah Kol Dodi (5745 edition, 14:3) says the same idea. See, however, also Sh"t Igrot Moshe OC 5:16 who thinks that one should avoid this situation by everyone having their three matzot. On that last point, see the full discussion [[Setting_the_Table#Seder_Plate_.28Kaarah.29|here]].</ref> | ||
## After the fact in any event if one had one kezayit of matzah for motzei matzah from both the broken and whole matzah one fulfills one's obligation.<ref>Mishna Brurah 475:11. In the shaar hatziyun he cites the Shulchan Aruch Harav and adds that it is obvious.</ref> | ## After the fact in any event if one had one kezayit of matzah for motzei matzah from both the broken and whole matzah one fulfills one's obligation.<ref>Mishna Brurah 475:11. In the shaar hatziyun he cites the Shulchan Aruch Harav and adds that it is obvious.</ref> | ||
# Practically, how large in a [[Kezayit]] in terms of the amount of [[Matzah]] one should eat? | # Practically, how large in a [[Kezayit]] in terms of the amount of [[Matzah]] one should eat? | ||
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## According to Sephardim, some say that the [[Kezayit]] should be measured by the weight of 27 grams, and some say that it is measured by the volume and in weight the [[Kezayit]] comes out to be 20 grams. (The typical machine [[matzah]] is 30-32 grams. In general, the [[Kezayit]] can be calculated according to the weight printed on the box.)<ref> | ## According to Sephardim, some say that the [[Kezayit]] should be measured by the weight of 27 grams, and some say that it is measured by the volume and in weight the [[Kezayit]] comes out to be 20 grams. (The typical machine [[matzah]] is 30-32 grams. In general, the [[Kezayit]] can be calculated according to the weight printed on the box.)<ref> | ||
* Kaf HaChaim 168:46 quotes a number of Sephardi Achronim, including the Chida, who say that the minhag of Sephardim is to measure the [[Kezayit]] by weight. He writes that this is the common minhag even for measuring a [[Kezayit]] of [[matza]]. Rav Ovadyah in Yechave Daat 1:16, Rav Mordechai Eliyahu (Maamar Mordechai 11:96), and Rav Chaim Dovid HaLevi (Aseh Lecha Rav 6:45) agree. Yalkut Yosef 475:4, therefore, rules that a [[Kezayit]] of [[matza]] is 27 grams. [In general, one machine [[matza]] is between 30 and 32 grams and so a [[Kezayit]] is .85-.9 of a [[matza]].] | * Kaf HaChaim 168:46 quotes a number of Sephardi Achronim, including the Chida, who say that the minhag of Sephardim is to measure the [[Kezayit]] by weight. He writes that this is the common minhag even for measuring a [[Kezayit]] of [[matza]]. Rav Ovadyah in Yechave Daat 1:16, Rav Mordechai Eliyahu (Maamar Mordechai 11:96), and Rav Chaim Dovid HaLevi (Aseh Lecha Rav 6:45) agree. Yalkut Yosef 475:4, therefore, rules that a [[Kezayit]] of [[matza]] is 27 grams. [In general, one machine [[matza]] is between 30 and 32 grams and so a [[Kezayit]] is .85-.9 of a [[matza]].] | ||
* However, Rav Ben Tzion Abba Shaul (Or Letzion vol 3, p 30) | * Rav Yitzchak Yosef (Yalkut Yosef Brachot 5771 p. 135) quotes his father as holding that the minhag is to use weight for a kezayit even regarding matzah where there is a real difference. [https://halachayomit.co.il/he/QuestionDetails.aspx?ID=3130 halachayomit.co.il] records this view as well to follow weight for matzah. [https://www.torahanytime.com/#/lectures?a=93324 Rav Avraham Yosef] agrees that we use weight even to measure a kezayit of matzah and not volume. | ||
* However, Rav Yehuda Bracha in Birkat Yehuda (v. 5 siman 41) argues that it is acceptable to use volume for matzah and quotes Rav Ovadia Yosef as agreeing that it is acceptable to rule in that fashion. [https://www.kore.co.il/viewArticle/123940 Rav Dovid Yosef] also quotes Rav Ovadia Yosef as agreeing that one can follow volume and that is how Rav Dovid rules. [https://youtu.be/MTqzG8yph0I Rav Gideon Ben Moshe] also holds that one can follow volume for matzah. Rav Ben Tzion Abba Shaul (Or Letzion vol 3, p 30) as well writes that the minhag only developed when [[matza]] had a similar density to water, but because our [[matza]] is thin and dry, there is no need to be stringent to calculate based on weight. Accordingly, he calculated a [[Kezayit]] to be 29cc, which he says is less than 20 grams in weight.</ref> | |||
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