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# Preferably, one should drink a Revi’it of wine for each of the 4 cups of wine at [[the Seder]]. If this is difficult, one fulfills his obligation by drinking the majority of a Revi’it for each cup.<Ref> * The Gemara (Pesachim 108b) states that each of the 4 cups at the [[seder]] must contain a Revi’it of wine. Additionally, Rabbi Yitzchak (Pesachim 109a) says that a certain measuring cup in Tzipori held the volume of a Log and they would use it to measure the Revi’it for [[Pesach]]. Rashbam (109a s.v. U’vah) explains that each of the 4 cups had to hold a Revi’it of a Log and altogether that would equal a Log, the exact volume of the cup in Tzipori. Rambam (Chametz UMatzah 7:7), Tur, and S”A 472:9 codify this as halacha. | # Preferably, one should drink a Revi’it of wine for each of the 4 cups of wine at [[the Seder]]. If this is difficult, one fulfills his obligation by drinking the majority of a Revi’it for each cup.<Ref> * The Gemara (Pesachim 108b) states that each of the 4 cups at the [[seder]] must contain a Revi’it of wine. Additionally, Rabbi Yitzchak (Pesachim 109a) says that a certain measuring cup in Tzipori held the volume of a Log and they would use it to measure the Revi’it for [[Pesach]]. Rashbam (109a s.v. U’vah) explains that each of the 4 cups had to hold a Revi’it of a Log and altogether that would equal a Log, the exact volume of the cup in Tzipori. Rambam (Chametz UMatzah 7:7), Tur, and S”A 472:9 codify this as halacha. | ||
* On the statement of Rav Nachman (Pesachim 108b) that one fulfills his obligation by drinking a majority of the cup, Tosfot (s.v. Ruba) comments that preferably, one should drink an entire Revi’it. The Bach (472 s.v. Mah SheKatav VeEin) writes that it is obvious that one should only rely on the concept of majority being considering like the entirety (Rubo K’kulo) after the fact, however, l’chatchila one should drink an entire Revi’it. Mishna Brurah 672:30 agrees.</ref> | * On the statement of Rav Nachman (Pesachim 108b) that one fulfills his obligation by drinking a majority of the cup, Tosfot (s.v. Ruba) comments that preferably, one should drink an entire Revi’it. The Bach (472 s.v. Mah SheKatav VeEin) writes that it is obvious that one should only rely on the concept of majority being considering like the entirety (Rubo K’kulo) after the fact, however, l’chatchila one should drink an entire Revi’it. Mishna Brurah 672:30 agrees.</ref> Some hold that one must have a majority of the cup.<ref>The Ramban (quoted by Orchot Chaim Leil Pesach no. 6, cited by Bet Yosef 472:9) holds that unlike a regular bracha made over a cup of wine which only requires majority of a reviyit the 4 cups of wine require a majority of the cup. Mishna Brurah 472:33 writes that the strict halacha follows the other rishonim.</ref> If one intends to drink the minimum amount one can be strict for this opinion by using a cup that is the size of a reviyit.<ref>Mishna Brurah 472:33</ref> | ||
# The precise measurement of a [[Revi'it]] is a matter of dispute; several opinions are outlined below:<ref>Background: The Gemara (Pesachim 109a) explains that a Revi’it is the volume of 2x2x2.7 fingerbreadths. Additionally, the Rashbam (109b s.v. DeHaynu) writes that the Revi’it is equal to 1.5 times the volume of an egg. Mishna Brurah 271:68 clarifies that the [[Revi'it]] is 1.5 eggs with its shell. Because of the apparent discrepancy between these two [[measurements]], the Tzlach (Pesachim 116b) concluded that the egg of the days of the Gemara was twice the size of the modern-day egg. The Mishna Brurah 486:1 concludes that for the 4 cups of wine at [[the Seder]], which are only d’rabanan, one need not follow the Tzlach’s strict view. </ref> | # The precise measurement of a [[Revi'it]] is a matter of dispute; several opinions are outlined below:<ref>Background: The Gemara (Pesachim 109a) explains that a Revi’it is the volume of 2x2x2.7 fingerbreadths. Additionally, the Rashbam (109b s.v. DeHaynu) writes that the Revi’it is equal to 1.5 times the volume of an egg. Mishna Brurah 271:68 clarifies that the [[Revi'it]] is 1.5 eggs with its shell. Because of the apparent discrepancy between these two [[measurements]], the Tzlach (Pesachim 116b) concluded that the egg of the days of the Gemara was twice the size of the modern-day egg. The Mishna Brurah 486:1 concludes that for the 4 cups of wine at [[the Seder]], which are only d’rabanan, one need not follow the Tzlach’s strict view. </ref> | ||
## Rabbi Mordechai Willig holds that a Revi’it is 2.5 fl oz (75cc). <ref> Rabbi Mordechai Willig (“The [[Shiurim]] of [[Seder]] Night” min 1-10, and [[Pesach]] To-Go 5771 p. 60) holds that strictly speaking the size of an egg with its shell is 50 cc, and the [[Revi'it]] is 1.5 eggs with its shell, resulting in a [[Revi'it]] of 2.54 fl oz. </ref> | ## Rabbi Mordechai Willig holds that a Revi’it is 2.5 fl oz (75cc). <ref> Rabbi Mordechai Willig (“The [[Shiurim]] of [[Seder]] Night” min 1-10, and [[Pesach]] To-Go 5771 p. 60) holds that strictly speaking the size of an egg with its shell is 50 cc, and the [[Revi'it]] is 1.5 eggs with its shell, resulting in a [[Revi'it]] of 2.54 fl oz. </ref> | ||
