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==Background==
==Background==
The Gemara 37a writes that one who chews (and swallows) wheat kernels makes HaAdama. Magan Avraham 208:2 understands the Rambam (Brachot 3:2) as holding that even if the kernels are still intact but the shell was removed and then it was cooked, one should make a Mezonot. However, Magan Avraham understands that the Talmidei Rabbenu Yonah (Brachot 25b) hold that the kernels must be ground and cooked enough that the kernels could stick together in order to make a Mezonot. [Tosfot (D”H HaKoses) and Rosh (Brachot 6:9) agree that once it’s ground up well by the cooking the Bracha is Mezonot.]  
The Gemara 37a writes that one who chews (and swallows) wheat kernels makes HaAdama. Magan Avraham 208:2 understands the Rambam (Brachot 3:2) as holding that even if the kernels are still intact but the shell was removed and then it was cooked, one should make a Mezonot. However, Magan Avraham understands that the Talmidei Rabbenu Yonah (Brachot 25b) hold that the kernels must be ground and cooked enough that the kernels could stick together in order to make a Mezonot. [Tosfot (37a D”H HaKoses) and Rosh (Brachot 6:9) agree that once it’s crushed in the cooking process the Bracha is Mezonot.]
 
==Bracha Rishona==
==Bracha Rishona==
===If the shell wasn’t removed===
===If the shell wasn’t removed===
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=== If a piece of the kernel was removed===
=== If a piece of the kernel was removed===
# If the grains had the shell and a piece of the kernel removed, the Bracha is mezonot. (Mishna Brurah 208:15; Aruch HaShulchan 208:17, Igrot Moshe 1:68). VeZot HaBracha (pg 283, Birur 27) adds that if only a small piece of the kernel along with the shell was removed the bracha is the same as if it's a whole kernel without the shell which is a doubt. However, Rabbi Moshe HaLevi in Birkat Hashem (vol 2 pg 129) and Halacha Brurah 208:16 hold that the Bracha is HaAdama just like raw wheat even if it doesn’t have it’s shell, a piece was taken off, and was roasted (since the kernels weren’t cooked).  
# If the grains had the shell and a piece of the kernel removed, the Bracha is mezonot. (Mishna Brurah 208:15; Aruch HaShulchan 208:17, Igrot Moshe 1:68). VeZot HaBracha (pg 283, Birur 27) adds that if only a small piece of the kernel along with the shell was removed the bracha is the same as if it's a whole kernel without the shell which is a doubt. However, Rabbi Moshe HaLevi in Birkat Hashem (vol 2 pg 129) and Halacha Brurah 208:16 hold that the Bracha is HaAdama just like raw wheat even if it doesn’t have it’s shell, a piece was taken off, and was roasted (since the kernels weren’t cooked).  
=== Puffed wheat ===
=== Puffed wheat ===
====Those who say puffed wheat is considered raw====
====Those who say puffed wheat is considered raw====
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#Rabbi Mordechai Eliyahu (VeZot HaBracha pg 384) writes that the Bracha is HaAdama unless one crumbles it, puts it in milk or water (especially if the water is hot) in which case the Bracha is Mezonot.
#Rabbi Mordechai Eliyahu (VeZot HaBracha pg 384) writes that the Bracha is HaAdama unless one crumbles it, puts it in milk or water (especially if the water is hot) in which case the Bracha is Mezonot.
#Vayamod Pinchas pg 160 quotes Rabbi Elyashiv as retracting from the earlier ruling (as quoted by Vezot HaBracha) that one makes a HaAdama on puffed wheat and after seeing the cooking process he held the Bracha was Mezonot.
#Vayamod Pinchas pg 160 quotes Rabbi Elyashiv as retracting from the earlier ruling (as quoted by Vezot HaBracha) that one makes a HaAdama on puffed wheat and after seeing the cooking process he held the Bracha was Mezonot.
===Granola===
# Many poskim rule that granola (made from toasted grain) is HaAdama because it’s considered a roasted grain. <Ref>Veten Bracha (Halachos of Brochos by Rabbi Bodner chapter 4, pg 67 and chapter 27, pg 505) quoting Rav Shlomo Zalman, and Vezot HaBracha (chap 12, pg 103) quoting Rav Elyashiv </ref> Some say that if the particles adhere together the Bracha is Mezonot, and if they do not the Bracha is HaAdama. <Ref>Laws of Brachos (Rabbi Forst, pg 369) </ref>


==Bracha Achrona==
==Bracha Achrona==