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* What is considered raw grain? Tosfot (37a D”H HaKoses) writes that if it was cooked or roasted as a whole grain it is considered raw and the Bracha is HaAdama. Rabbenu Yonah (Brachot 25b D”H Chavitz), Rosh (Brachot 6:9), and Rambam (Brachot 3:2) agree regarding grain which was cooked whole. The idea of Tosfot is codified by the Tur and S”A 208:4. | * What is considered raw grain? Tosfot (37a D”H HaKoses) writes that if it was cooked or roasted as a whole grain it is considered raw and the Bracha is HaAdama. Rabbenu Yonah (Brachot 25b D”H Chavitz), Rosh (Brachot 6:9), and Rambam (Brachot 3:2) agree regarding grain which was cooked whole. The idea of Tosfot is codified by the Tur and S”A 208:4. | ||
* When is it considered [[Mezonot]]? (1) Tosfot (37a D”H HaKoses) writes if it the grain was crushed well in the process of cooking it would be [[Mezonot]]. (2) Rabbenu Yonah (Brachot 25b D”H Chavitz) writes that the Bracha is only [[Mezonot]] if it is crushed and stuck together. (3) Rambam (Brachot 3:4) writes that grain which was crushed and cooked is [[Mezonot]]. | * When is it considered [[Mezonot]]? (1) Tosfot (37a D”H HaKoses) writes if it the grain was crushed well in the process of cooking it would be [[Mezonot]]. (2) Rabbenu Yonah (Brachot 25b D”H Chavitz) writes that the Bracha is only [[Mezonot]] if it is crushed and stuck together. (3) Rambam (Brachot 3:4) writes that grain which was crushed and cooked is [[Mezonot]]. | ||
* What’s the halacha? (1) The S”A 208:2 rules (like the Rambam) that grain which was crushed and cooked is [[Mezonot]]. Mishna Brurah 208:3 adds that even if the grain started out whole but was crushed in the cooking process the Bracha is [[Mezonot]]. (2) The Mishna Brurah 208:15 writes that if one removed the shell and then cooked it, it is a halachic doubt. Shaar | * What’s the halacha? (1) The S”A 208:2 rules (like the Rambam) that grain which was crushed and cooked is [[Mezonot]]. Mishna Brurah 208:3 adds that even if the grain started out whole but was crushed in the cooking process the Bracha is [[Mezonot]]. (2) The Mishna Brurah 208:15 writes that if one removed the shell and then cooked it, it is a halachic doubt. Shaar HaTziyun 208:9 writes that if the shell was removed and the grain stuck together the Bracha is [[Mezonot]]. | ||
==Bracha Rishona== | ==Bracha Rishona== | ||
===If the grain isn’t whole=== | ===If the grain isn’t whole=== | ||
# If the grain is split or crushed and then cooked the Bracha is [[Mezonot]]. <Ref>S”A 208:2, Mishna Brurah 208:3, Vezot HaBracha (Birur Halacha 27, pg 282) </ref> If the shell and a large piece of the grain was removed it is the same as if it was split or crushed. <Ref> Aruch HaShulchan 208:17, Sh”t Igrot Moshe 1:68 </ref> | # If the grain is split or crushed and then cooked the Bracha is [[Mezonot]]. <Ref>S”A 208:2, Mishna Brurah 208:3, Vezot HaBracha (Birur Halacha 27, pg 282) </ref> If the shell and a large piece of the grain was removed it is the same as if it was split or crushed. <Ref> Aruch HaShulchan 208:17, Sh”t Igrot Moshe 1:68 </ref> | ||
# If the shell of the grain was removed and either the grains were crushed in the cooking process or the grains stuck together, the Bracha is [[Mezonot]]. However, if the shell was removed and the grains weren’t crushed and didn’t stick together, the Bracha is a halachic doubt. <ref> Mishna Brurah 208:3 writes that if the grain is crushed the Bracha is [[Mezonot]] even if the shell wasn’t removed. Shaar | # If the shell of the grain was removed and either the grains were crushed in the cooking process or the grains stuck together, the Bracha is [[Mezonot]]. However, if the shell was removed and the grains weren’t crushed and didn’t stick together, the Bracha is a halachic doubt. <ref> Mishna Brurah 208:3 writes that if the grain is crushed the Bracha is [[Mezonot]] even if the shell wasn’t removed. Shaar HaTziyun 208:9 adds that if the shell was removed and the grain stuck together the Bracha is [[Mezonot]]. However, Mishna Brurah 208:15 writes if just the shell was removed and the grain wasn’t crushed or stuck together the Bracha is dependant on a dispute between the Rambam and Talmidei Rabbenu Yonah. Vezot HaBracha (Birur Halacha 27, pg 282) concurs. [See also Sh"t Igrot Moshe 1:68.] </ref> | ||
===If the grain is whole=== | ===If the grain is whole=== | ||
# If the grain is whole (the shell of the grain wasn’t removed) before cooking the Bracha is HaAdama unless it was crushed well in the cooking process in which case it is [[Mezonot]]. <ref> S”A 208:4 writes that grain which was roasted or cooked whole is HaAdama. Mishna Brurah 208:3 adds that it's only HaAdama if it wasn't crushed well in the cooking process, however, if it was it would be [[Mezonot]]. The Shaar | # If the grain is whole (the shell of the grain wasn’t removed) before cooking the Bracha is HaAdama unless it was crushed well in the cooking process in which case it is [[Mezonot]]. <ref> S”A 208:4 writes that grain which was roasted or cooked whole is HaAdama. Mishna Brurah 208:3 adds that it's only HaAdama if it wasn't crushed well in the cooking process, however, if it was it would be [[Mezonot]]. The Shaar HaTziyun 208:18 writes that it would be a safek (halachic doubt) if the grain was whole and was only crushed slightly, however, it's possible that one may make [[Mezonot]]. Vezot HaBracha (Birur Halacha 27, pg 282) concurs. [It is for this reason that the Piskei Teshuvot 208:3 writes that chulent is [[Mezonot]] because the barley is crushed well even if it is whole.] </ref> | ||
==Bracha Achrona== | ==Bracha Achrona== | ||
