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# It is proper to have a small meal in honor of Purim the night of Purim on Motzei Shabbat. Having [[Seudat Shelishit]] isn’t considered as that small meal the night of [[Purim]].<ref>Mishna Brurah 695:3, Rabbi Hershel Schachter ("Purim That Falls on Motzei Shabbos," Rabbi Isaac Rice 5784)</ref> | # It is proper to have a small meal in honor of Purim the night of Purim on Motzei Shabbat. Having [[Seudat Shelishit]] isn’t considered as that small meal the night of [[Purim]].<ref>Mishna Brurah 695:3, Rabbi Hershel Schachter ("Purim That Falls on Motzei Shabbos," Rabbi Isaac Rice 5784)</ref> | ||
# Even if one’s seudat shelishit meal extends into the night one says Retzeh in Birkat Hamazon and doesn’t add Al HaNissim.<ref>Natai Gavriel 28:3</ref> Initially, it is best to avoid this question by not eating a kezayit of bread after nightfall.<ref>Rabbi Hershel Schachter ("Purim That Falls on Motzei Shabbos," Rabbi Isaac Rice 5784)</ref> | # Even if one’s seudat shelishit meal extends into the night one says Retzeh in Birkat Hamazon and doesn’t add Al HaNissim.<ref>Natai Gavriel 28:3</ref> Initially, it is best to avoid this question by not eating a kezayit of bread after nightfall.<ref>Rabbi Hershel Schachter ("Purim That Falls on Motzei Shabbos," Rabbi Isaac Rice 5784)</ref> | ||
== Eating before Megillah == | |||
# Some poskim hold that it is permitted to eat a snack before the megillah on Motzei Shabbat (after havdalah). The reason is that we're only strict not to even have a snack before megillah after the fast since a person is likely to eat too much, but in this case there's no such concern.<ref>Rav Elyashiv (Shiurei Maran Hagrish Elyashiv Brachot 4b s.v. shemati p. 22). The reason that megillah at night after a fast is more of a concern is spelled out in Eliya Rabba 692:11. </ref> Others disagree and hold that when Purim falls out on Motzei Shabbat, it has the same status as every other year and it is forbidden to have a snack before megillah except someone who is weak.<ref>Va'ayer Lanu (Rabbi Yisrael Rappaport, p. 123) notes that according to Eliya Rabba 692 there's more of a reason to be reason when Purim falls out on Motzei Shabbat since the fast isn't right before the megillah. However, according to Eliya Rabba it should also be allowed to have a snack before megillah of the day and Mishna Brurah writes that there's no difference. Therefore, Va'ayer Lanu writes that according to Mishna Brurah it is forbidden to have a snack before megillah of Purim that falls out on Motzei Shabbat. Rabbi Yisrael Harpenes (Mekadesh Yisrael Purim teshuva 67) writes that it is not proper to be lenient to have a snack before Megillah when Purim falls out on Motzei Shabbat.</ref> | |||
# Some poskim write that it is forbidden to continue seuda shelishit late in the night past tzet hakochavim when Purim falls out on Motzei Shabbat.<ref>Rav Nissim Karelitz (Piskei Shemuot p. 113 quoting Rav Yosef Shuv)</ref> | |||
== Order of Arvit on Motzei Shabbat == | == Order of Arvit on Motzei Shabbat == | ||
#It is forbidden to read the Megillah after Plag Mincha when Purim falls out on Motzei Shabbat.<ref>Magen Avraham 692:6</ref> | |||
#If [[Purim]] falls out on Saturday night then one should read the [[megillah]] and then say VeYehe Noam.<ref>Rama 693:1, Mekor Hachaim 192:1, Natai Gavriel ([[purim|Purim]] 28:8)</ref> | #If [[Purim]] falls out on Saturday night then one should read the [[megillah]] and then say VeYehe Noam.<ref>Rama 693:1, Mekor Hachaim 192:1, Natai Gavriel ([[purim|Purim]] 28:8)</ref> | ||
#If the congregation didn’t yet say [[Kiddush Levana]] then they should say it before hearing the Megilla,<ref>Noda BiYehuda (O.C. 1:41) writes that one should say [[Kiddush Levana]] before the [[Megillah]] because of Tadir VeSheino Tadir. He explains that the Gemara’s principle that Pirsumei Nisa trumps Tadir ([[Megillah]] 3a) applies only if by reading the [[Megillah]] first, one will be able to do Pirsumeh Nisa with a bigger congregation than if one were to do Tadir first. However, if the entire congregation can read the [[Megillah]] after [[Kiddush Levana]], then it is better to say [[Kiddush Levana]] first. Kitzur S”A 97:15 and Nitei Gavriel 49:1 agree.</ref> however, if only individuals didn’t say it they should wait until after hearing Megilla together with the congregation.<ref>Natai Gavriel 49:1, 3</ref> | #If the congregation didn’t yet say [[Kiddush Levana]] then they should say it before hearing the Megilla,<ref>Noda BiYehuda (O.C. 1:41) writes that one should say [[Kiddush Levana]] before the [[Megillah]] because of Tadir VeSheino Tadir. He explains that the Gemara’s principle that Pirsumei Nisa trumps Tadir ([[Megillah]] 3a) applies only if by reading the [[Megillah]] first, one will be able to do Pirsumeh Nisa with a bigger congregation than if one were to do Tadir first. However, if the entire congregation can read the [[Megillah]] after [[Kiddush Levana]], then it is better to say [[Kiddush Levana]] first. Kitzur S”A 97:15 and Nitei Gavriel 49:1 agree.</ref> however, if only individuals didn’t say it they should wait until after hearing Megilla together with the congregation.<ref>Natai Gavriel 49:1, 3</ref> | ||
