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==Saying Divrei Torah at the meal==
 
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# There's an obligation to say Divrei Torah at every meal. <ref> Pirkei Avot 3:3, Chaye Adam 45:4 </ref>
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# There's an obligation to say Divrei Torah at every meal <ref> Pirkei Avot 3:3, Chaye Adam 45:4 </ref> before Birkat Hamazon. <ref>Sh"t Rivevot Efraim 1:134 writes that one should make sure to say the divrei torah before Birkat HaMazon. </ref>
 
# Some say that saying "Mayim Achronim Chovah" counts as divrei torah at the meal. <ref> Ben Ish Chai (Shelach #7), Shulchan Aruch HaMekusar (pg 245 note 12) </ref>
 
# Some say that saying "Mayim Achronim Chovah" counts as divrei torah at the meal. <ref> Ben Ish Chai (Shelach #7), Shulchan Aruch HaMekusar (pg 245 note 12) </ref>
 
# There's a minority opinion that one fulfills one's obligation by benching. <ref> Rav Ovadyah MeBartenura on Avot 3:3 writes that one fulfills this obligation by saying Birkat HaMazon. Rivovot Efraim 1:134 argues and does not accept this as halacha. Anaf Etz Avot (Rav Ovadyah Yosef, 3:3, pg 176) defends the Bartenuro from the question of the Tosfot Yom Tov (who asked why would the mishna be dealing with Reshayim who don't say Birkat HaMazon). [However, Anaf Etz Avot isn't one of Rav Ovadyah's halachic works and this may be just what he would suggest in learning.] </ref>
 
# There's a minority opinion that one fulfills one's obligation by benching. <ref> Rav Ovadyah MeBartenura on Avot 3:3 writes that one fulfills this obligation by saying Birkat HaMazon. Rivovot Efraim 1:134 argues and does not accept this as halacha. Anaf Etz Avot (Rav Ovadyah Yosef, 3:3, pg 176) defends the Bartenuro from the question of the Tosfot Yom Tov (who asked why would the mishna be dealing with Reshayim who don't say Birkat HaMazon). [However, Anaf Etz Avot isn't one of Rav Ovadyah's halachic works and this may be just what he would suggest in learning.] </ref>

Revision as of 20:17, 18 October 2011

Saying Divrei Torah at the meal

  1. There's an obligation to say Divrei Torah at every meal [1] before Birkat Hamazon. [2]
  2. Some say that saying "Mayim Achronim Chovah" counts as divrei torah at the meal. [3]
  3. There's a minority opinion that one fulfills one's obligation by benching. [4]

Other laws of proper conduct of a meal

  1. It’s forbidden to take in one’s hand a piece of food the size of a KeBeitzah. [5] However, many are lenient to permit holding a large piece of bread if that’s the way it’s normally eaten such as pizza, pita, or a sandwich. [6]

References

  1. Pirkei Avot 3:3, Chaye Adam 45:4
  2. Sh"t Rivevot Efraim 1:134 writes that one should make sure to say the divrei torah before Birkat HaMazon.
  3. Ben Ish Chai (Shelach #7), Shulchan Aruch HaMekusar (pg 245 note 12)
  4. Rav Ovadyah MeBartenura on Avot 3:3 writes that one fulfills this obligation by saying Birkat HaMazon. Rivovot Efraim 1:134 argues and does not accept this as halacha. Anaf Etz Avot (Rav Ovadyah Yosef, 3:3, pg 176) defends the Bartenuro from the question of the Tosfot Yom Tov (who asked why would the mishna be dealing with Reshayim who don't say Birkat HaMazon). [However, Anaf Etz Avot isn't one of Rav Ovadyah's halachic works and this may be just what he would suggest in learning.]
  5. Derech Eretz Rabba 6:30, Tur and S”A 170:7, kitzur S”A 42:2, Mishneh Halachot 15:61
  6. Yalkut Yosef (vol 3 pg 150), Or Letzion vol 2 chap 46:7, and Halacha Brurah 170 are lenient to permit holding in one’s hand bread the size of a KeBeitzah if that’s the normal way of eating it (for example pizza, sandwich, pita). See Alehu Lo Yibol pg 107.