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==General rule==
==General rule==
# If one grinds a vegetable or grain not from the five grains and cook it, if the vegetable is still recognizable in the product then the Bracha is the same the vegetable, however if it’s ground and unrecognizable then the Bracha is shehakol unless it’s still intact. <Ref>
# If one grinds a vegetable or fruit, whether or not one cooks it, if the vegetable is still recognizable in the product then the Bracha is the same the vegetable, however if it’s ground and unrecognizable then the Bracha is shehakol. <Ref>
The Shulchan Aruch 202:3 rules like the Rambam who says that even if a fruit or vegetable is totally ground up to the point that it is not recognizable the Bracha is still the same as the original fruit or vegetable. [This is explained by Mishna Brurah 202:41.] However, the Rama (ibid.) argues that it is preferable to make a Shehakol on certain jams. The Mishna Brurah 202:42 concludes that the halacha follows the Shulchan Aruch as long as the vegetable did not loose its form totally and is unrecognizable. So holds Vezot HaBracha (pg 100, chapter 12) and Veten Bracha (Halachos of Brochos by Rabbi Bodner pg 403-4, chapter 22). </ref>
* The Gemara Brachot 38a concludes that the Bracha for Tarima (processed dates) is HaEtz because the actual fruit remains. Rashi (D”H Tarima) explains that Tarima is dates which were crushed but not pulverized. However, Rambam (Brachot 8:4) explains that even if one removed the pits and crushed it and kneaded it into a dough the Bracha would still be HaEtz. The S”A 202:7 rules like the Rambam and the Rama rules like Rashi.  
* The Mishna Brurah 208:42 concludes that whenever the fruit is recognizable (because of the form and texture) the Bracha would be like the fruit, however, when it’s so processed that it’s not recognizable the bracha is Shehakol. So holds Vezot HaBracha (pg 100, chapter 12) and Veten Bracha (Halachos of Brochos by Rabbi Bodner pg 403-4, chapter 22). </ref>
# However, if a certain fruit or vegetable is normally eaten crushed up the Bracha would be the same as a the fruit or vegetable. <ref> S”A 203:7 rules that spices which were mixed together with sugar the Bracha would be that of the spices. The Mishna Brurah 203:12 adds that this is true even if the spices were totally pulverized and not recognizable nonetheless it retains it’s Bracha because it’s normal to crush the spices in this way. Halachos of Brachos (Rabbi Bodner, chap 22, pg 402, note 30) limits this Mishna Brurah to where the majority of the time it is made in this way. </ref>


==Mashed potato==
==Mashed potato==