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#Some say that one can fulfill this minhag with electric lights.<ref>Chazon Ovadia (Aveilut v. 3, p. 54)</ref>
#Some say that one can fulfill this minhag with electric lights.<ref>Chazon Ovadia (Aveilut v. 3, p. 54)</ref>
===Iyluy Neshama===
===Iyluy Neshama===
#There is a discussion if learning mishnayot for two people who passed away is effective one need to learn for each one independently. <Ref>The editor of Mesivta nedarim 17a seems to say that these teshuvot they brought are relevant and so they're lenient. It isn't exactly the same since neither are discussing iyluy neshama of a meyt. Keren LDovid 32 sounds like learning mishnayot for two people who passed away isn't effective. One has to learn each thing independently. Mesivta Gittin Peninei Halacha 57a cites Dovev Meisharim 2:15 who holds that one kaddish doesn't count for two deceased people as relevant to this question of whether one mishna can count for two deceased people. Also, in Mesivta Peninei Halacha Nedarim 17a they cite Yad Yitzchak (cited by Ohel Shana 17:13) and Ikrei Hadat 23:20 who imply that it is effective. However, although Mesivta's title is about learning mishnayot for two deceased people both teshuvot seem to be about fulfilling two nedarim and not specifically whether it is an iyluy neshama for both.</ref> See also the topic of saying kaddish for two deceased people on the [[Kaddish]] page.
#There is a discussion if learning mishnayot for two people who passed away is effective one need to learn for each one independently. <Ref>The editor of Mesivta nedarim 17a seems to say that these teshuvot they brought are relevant and so they're lenient. It isn't exactly the same since neither are discussing iyluy neshama of a meyt. Keren LDovid 32 sounds like learning mishnayot for two people who passed away isn't effective. One has to learn each thing independently. Mesivta Gittin Peninei Halacha 57a cites Dovev Meisharim 2:15 who holds that one kaddish doesn't count for two deceased people as relevant to this question of whether one mishna can count for two deceased people. Also, in Mesivta Peninei Halacha Nedarim 17a they cite Yad Yitzchak (cited by Ohel Shana 17:13) and Ikrei Hadat 23:20 who imply that it is effective. However, although Mesivta's title is about learning mishnayot for two deceased people both teshuvot seem to be about fulfilling two nedarim and not specifically whether it is an iyluy neshama for both. See Kitzur Divrei Sofrim Perek 55:246-7 who writes that even if according to those who hold that for kaddish one kaddish works for two people for mishnayot one should learn mishnayot separately for two people.</ref> See also the topic of saying kaddish for two deceased people on the [[Kaddish]] page.


==Covering the Mirrors==
==Covering the Mirrors==
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