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* Tur 671:6 in the name of Maharam MeRotenberg holds that one should place it above 3 [[Tefachim]]. This is also the opinion of Mordechai [[Shabbat]] 266, S”A 671:6. Birkat Yosef Yedid 3 pg 207, Sh”t Kinyan Torah 1:131:2 imply from Orchot Chaim that under three [[Tefachim]] doesn’t fulfill the mitzvah. Yet, Pri [[Chadash]] 671, Pri Megadim A”A 671:6, Mishna Brurah 671:26, Kaf HaChaim 671:50, Chazon Ovadia pg. 33, Torat HaMoadim 3:5 all rule that if one lit below 3 tefachim he has still fulfilled his obligation. </ref> If one is lighting indoors, one should light by the window even if it is above 10 [[tefachim]], rather than light by the doorway on the inside.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 671:6, Mishna Brurah 671:27</ref>
* Tur 671:6 in the name of Maharam MeRotenberg holds that one should place it above 3 [[Tefachim]]. This is also the opinion of Mordechai [[Shabbat]] 266, S”A 671:6. Birkat Yosef Yedid 3 pg 207, Sh”t Kinyan Torah 1:131:2 imply from Orchot Chaim that under three [[Tefachim]] doesn’t fulfill the mitzvah. Yet, Pri [[Chadash]] 671, Pri Megadim A”A 671:6, Mishna Brurah 671:26, Kaf HaChaim 671:50, Chazon Ovadia pg. 33, Torat HaMoadim 3:5 all rule that if one lit below 3 tefachim he has still fulfilled his obligation. </ref> If one is lighting indoors, one should light by the window even if it is above 10 [[tefachim]], rather than light by the doorway on the inside.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 671:6, Mishna Brurah 671:27</ref>
# One should be careful to light in a different place than one normally lights the rest of the year so that the fact that one is lighting specifically for [[Chanukah]] will be recognizable. <Ref>Rama 671:7</ref>
# One should be careful to light in a different place than one normally lights the rest of the year so that the fact that one is lighting specifically for [[Chanukah]] will be recognizable. <Ref>Rama 671:7</ref>
# If it’s above 20 [[amot]] (9.6 meters) one doesn’t fulfill the obligation and should extinguish the candle and relight it in the proper height without a bracha. <ref> [[Shabbat]] 22a Rav says it can’t be above 20 [[amot]]. Tosfot (D”H Ner) says it can’t just be lowered since the mitzvah was already done incorrectly. Tur(671:6), Bach, Taz, Pri [[Chadash]], Mishna Brurah (Shaar Tziyun 671:33) says indoors it can be above 20 [[amot]] against the Rabbenu Yoel (Ravyah 843) and Rabbi Yitzchak Avuhav (quoted by the Bet Yosef). If one put it above 20 [[amot]], Pri [[Chadash]], Mishna Brurah 671:29 say to relight with a Bracha. Kaf Hachaim (671:53) limits the ruling of the Pri [[Chadash]] to only where one finished lighting and stopped thinking about it. However Chazon Ovadiah ([[Chanukah]] pg 35) and Torat HaMoadim 3:6 say to relight without a bracha because of the opinion of Rabbenu Yoel (Pri Megadim A”A 671:7), [and Hareri Kodesh who says that perhaps according to Meiri and Shiltot one should repeat Sh’assa Nissim]. </ref>
# If it’s above 20 [[amot]] (9.6 meters) one doesn’t fulfill the obligation and should extinguish the candle and relight it in the proper height without a bracha. <ref> [[Shabbat]] 22a Rav says it can’t be above 20 [[amot]]. Tosfot (D”H Ner) says it can’t just be lowered since the mitzvah was already done incorrectly. Tur (671:6), Bach, Taz, Pri [[Chadash]], Mishna Brurah (Shaar Tziyun 671:33) say indoors it can be above 20 [[amot]] against the Rabbenu Yoel (Ravyah 843) and Rabbi Yitzchak Avuhav (quoted by the Bet Yosef). If one put it above 20 [[amot]], Pri [[Chadash]], Mishna Brurah 671:29 say to relight with a Bracha. Kaf Hachaim (671:53) limits the ruling of the Pri [[Chadash]] to only where one finished lighting and stopped thinking about it. However Chazon Ovadiah ([[Chanukah]] pg 35) and Torat HaMoadim 3:6 say to relight without a bracha because of the opinion of Rabbenu Yoel (Pri Megadim A”A 671:7), [and Hareri Kodesh who says that perhaps according to Meiri and Shiltot one should repeat Sh’assa Nissim]. </ref>
# Similarly someone who lives an upper floor apartment, should light by the door of the apartment and if they want they can light at the window even if it’s above 20 [[amot]]. Some have the custom to light by the apartment building entrance. <ref> Ritva ([[Shabbat]] 21b s.v. VeIm Dar) says someone living in an upper floor should light by the window that’s above 20 [[amot]]. However, Pri [[Chadash]] 671:6, Pri Megadim A”A 671:8, and Machsit HaShekel 671:6 say to light it by the door of the apartment. Thus, Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 139:8 rules that if one's window is more than 20 [[amot]] above the ground level of the street outside, one shouldn't light by the window, but rather by the house door. Chazon Ovadiah ([[Chanukah]] pg 36) says that one living in an apartment on the fifth floor (just an example) should light inside his house by the door and if he wants he can light by the window that’s above 20 [[amot]] as it’s Pirsume Nisa for the household members and to those on the street according Rabbenu Yoel and for others in a building across the street at the same height (similar to Kol Bo [[Chanukah]] pg 99). The custom of lighting by the apartment entrance is sourced in halacha 17. </ref>
# Similarly someone who lives an upper floor apartment, should light by the door of the apartment and if they want they can light at the window even if it’s above 20 [[amot]]. Some have the custom to light by the apartment building entrance. <ref> Ritva ([[Shabbat]] 21b s.v. VeIm Dar) says someone living in an upper floor should light by the window that’s above 20 [[amot]]. However, Pri [[Chadash]] 671:6, Pri Megadim A”A 671:8, and Machsit HaShekel 671:6 say to light it by the door of the apartment. Thus, Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 139:8 rules that if one's window is more than 20 [[amot]] above the ground level of the street outside, one shouldn't light by the window, but rather by the house door. Chazon Ovadiah ([[Chanukah]] pg 36) says that one living in an apartment on the fifth floor (just an example) should light inside his house by the door and if he wants he can light by the window that’s above 20 [[amot]] as it’s Pirsume Nisa for the household members and to those on the street according Rabbenu Yoel and for others in a building across the street at the same height (similar to Kol Bo [[Chanukah]] pg 99). The custom of lighting by the apartment entrance is sourced in halacha 17. </ref>
# The [[measurements]] are measured to the flame of the candle. <ref> Mishna Brurah (Shaar Tziyun 671:33), Chazon Ovadyah ([[Chanukah]] p. 36) say to measure from the flame of the candle like the Pri Megadim (M”Z 671:5) [However Leket Yosher ([[Chanukah]] pg 150) writes in name of a student of the Trumat HaDeshen that just the bottom has to be within 10 [[Tefachim]].] </ref>
# The [[measurements]] are measured to the flame of the candle. <ref> Mishna Brurah (Shaar Tziyun 671:33), Chazon Ovadyah ([[Chanukah]] p. 36) say to measure from the flame of the candle like the Pri Megadim (M”Z 671:5) [However Leket Yosher ([[Chanukah]] pg 150) writes in name of a student of the Trumat HaDeshen that just the bottom has to be within 10 [[Tefachim]].] </ref>